Presidential Campaign: 2012

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Pretty stupid name, imo.

Which, No Labels or Tea Party?

Quixotic is a pretty smart word for the whole thing, though, I think.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Which, No Labels or Tea Party?

Quixotic is a pretty smart word for the whole thing, though, I think.

No Labels. It's a bit Breakfast Club, isn't it?


Ummmmmm....

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I don't think this is a joke:





"Declaration" here:

The Declaration | No Labels

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by melliedee

No Labels. It's a bit Breakfast Club, isn't it?


Ummmmmm....



I don't think this is a joke:





"Declaration" here:

The Declaration | No Labels

I had to stop after the "blue tie, red tie, let's tie ourselves together" line.

As far as the name, well it may not be wonderful, but it least it doesn't subvert the principles of the very people it claims to revere. I'll give it that.

It does however remind me of Naomi Klein types and that "no brand" movement...

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Do you think this is true?



Hill: Christie Too Fat To Be President

How fat is he?

I imagine many people would not vote for someone who is morbidly obese, no. People are shallow. And some people see being overweight as a character flaw, no self control, etc.

[melliedee]

Bloomberg continues to insist that he is not running, but he really seems like he IS going to run.

Is 2012 the year for an independent?

[Luv2Dance]

Originally Posted by Rissask

How fat is he?

I imagine many people would not vote for someone who is morbidly obese, no. People are shallow. And some people see being overweight as a character flaw, no self control, etc.

Taft was big......................

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Bloomberg continues to insist that he is not running, but he really seems like he IS going to run.

Is 2012 the year for an independent?

Nope.

Ya know why?

Because no year is the year for an independent.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Nope.

Ya know why?

Because no year is the year for an independent.

Bloomberg's protests seem a little too protesty to me. I think he's considering it.

Independent identification is on the rise after 08, over a third of the electorate in some polls I've read and nearing 40% among the college age vote.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Bloomberg's protests seem a little too protesty to me. I think he's considering it.

Independent identification is on the rise after 08, over a third of the electorate in some polls I've read and nearing 40% among the college age vote.

That may be, and the trend may continue, but with the system so entrenched against independents, I don't think it will make a difference.

There was a good link I or someone else posted several months or more ago that explained the nature of this all rather well, but I don't remember where it is, now, or who put it together...

[ryberg]

Ha -- well it didn't take long to find it again. And I guess polisci types will know this well enough already:

Duverger's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[melliedee]

Interesting read here:

You Can't Change the Political Game Unless You Change the Rules

And, yes, I agree that the two party system is stacked against them.

[roni]

Pawlenty supports reinstating DADT on Bryan Fischer's radio show.

Here is some information on Fischer first:

Over the last few months, we've brought you news that prominent social conservative Bryan Fischer has blamed gays for the Wikileaks disclosure, told readers that Obama wants to give America back to the Indians, declared that bears are a threat to our Judeo-Christian culture, declared that no new mosques should be built anywhere in America and insisted that Hitler preferred using gay soldiers since they had "no limits."

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In an interview with anti-gay, anti-bear activist Bryan Fischer, potential 2012 Republican presidential candidate and former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty said "I would support reinstating" Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

Pawlenty (R-MN) was on Fischer's radio show yesterday and touted his social conservative credentials and support of "of the family, of pro-life positions, of traditional marriage positions."

"I mean, families and traditional marriage is so important to that and I don't believe all other domestic relations should be on the same platform as traditional marriage, I just don't buy it," he said.

Pawlenty added that he thinks Roe v. Wade was poorly decided, and emphasized that he has "been a public supporter of maintaining Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and I would support reinstating it as well."

Pawlenty To Bryan Fischer: I'd Support Reinstating DADT | TPMDC

[beer_dude]

[Quote:]declared that bears are a threat to our Judeo-Christian culture[/quote]

Does he (Pawlenty) mean large hairy gay men?

[D33RHUNT3R]

Originally Posted by roni

Pawlenty supports reinstating DADT on Bryan Fischer's radio show.

Here is some information on Fischer first:

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Pawlenty To Bryan Fischer: I'd Support Reinstating DADT | TPMDC

[horizon200]

Originally Posted by beer_dude

[Quote:]declared that bears are a threat to our Judeo-Christian culture

Does he (Pawlenty) mean large hairy gay men? [/quote]

I believe that was Fisher saying the Bears are the threat.

And they are scary!



Or maybe he meant the evil bear family down the street...


No wait! He said threat to Judeo-Christian way of life...he must mean Hitler Bear