Presidential Campaign: 2012

[Elysium]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Yes..,.get your DVR's ready to speed by the crap..........there is going to be the most money ever spent in history on ad campaigns that most people, like me, are simply going to turn off.....What a massive waste of money!

We need a constitutional amendment apparently to get this money out of politics...it is abhorrent!

Agreed

[Robinhood]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Yes..,.get your DVR's ready to speed by the crap..........there is going to be the most money ever spent in history on ad campaigns that most people, like me, are simply going to turn off.....What a massive waste of money!

We need a constitutional amendment apparently to get this money out of politics...it is abhorrent!

That would sure be nice

[user 6507]

Originally Posted by roni

His campaign organization is ready.

It is the Republicans who should be worried

We ARE worried-who can tell what his next mandate will be?

I confess my ignorance that I was unaware there are a dozen other democratic candidates on that ballot. It would be funny as hell if some Joe Blow whupped his ass...

Funny...that NH is....

Obama's N.H. Shadow Campaign - Yahoo! News

[gingele]

Originally Posted by StephenB

We ARE worried-who can tell what his next mandate will be?

I confess my ignorance that I was unaware there are a dozen other democratic candidates on that ballot. It would be funny as hell if some Joe Blow whupped his ass...

Funny...that NH is....

Obama's N.H. Shadow Campaign - Yahoo! News

What? You mean you didn't know about Vermin Supreme? FREE PONIES!! HARNESSING ZOMBIE POWER!

(some great satire here):

[STOGEY]

Originally Posted by Elysium

Also find it kind of odd that no one has picked up on perhaps the most impassioned comments made by Gingrich concerning the chilling effect that Obama admin actions have had on shutting out Catholic Charities in the adoption process and child welfare actions.Seemed to be picked up and run with by the others as well.Do the cynical just see it as an excuse to persecute GLBT by banning same sex marriage?Thought it would be more of a lightening rod.

Very true. As i said I'm actually reading the debate transcripts. Radios in trucks actually suck. Technology has come a long ways as far as pollution control is concerned. But when it comes to radios they still suck.

Anyways i did read the part in which in my own state of Massachusetts. Catholics Charaties closed some adoption homes. Because they won't allow same sex couples to adopt.
The Catholic Charities i think is a non govt funded operation. So whe
n a state ops to shut down a non govt funded institution they're over stepping the separation of church and state.

[ryberg]

Maybe we need us some Screaming Lord Sutch

[gingele]

Originally Posted by STOGEY

Very true. As i said I'm actually reading the debate transcripts. Radios in trucks actually suck. Technology has come a long ways as far as pollution control is concerned. But when it comes to radios they still suck.

Anyways i did read the part in which in my own state of Massachusetts. Catholics Charaties closed some adoption homes. Because they won't allow same sex couples to adopt.
The Catholic Charities i think is a non govt funded operation. So whe
n a state ops to shut down a non govt funded institution they're over stepping the separation of church and state.

STOGEY, the state didn't shut them down. Catholic Charities voluntarily chose to stop providing adoption services because they weren't allowed to discriminate against same-sex couples by refusing to place otherwise-unwanted children in such households. And the reason they weren't allowed to discriminate is because Catholic Charities actually takes a nice chunk of State taxpayer's money.

Of course Catholic Charities could have continued to provide adoption services to children, and could have chosen to discriminate against gay couples to boot. All they had to do was refuse to accept public funds.

Guess we know where their priorities were.

[tmc]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Yes..,.get your DVR's ready to speed by the crap..........there is going to be the most money ever spent in history on ad campaigns that most people, like me, are simply going to turn off.....What a massive waste of money!

We need a constitutional amendment apparently to get this money out of politics...it is abhorrent!

Such an amendment already exists; it is just routinely ignored and thus we find ourselves at this juncture.

[STOGEY]

Originally Posted by gingele

STOGEY, the state didn't shut them down. Catholic Charities voluntarily chose to stop providing adoption services because they weren't allowed to discriminate against same-sex couples by refusing to place otherwise-unwanted children in such households. And the reason they weren't allowed to discriminate is because Catholic Charities actually takes a nice chunk of State taxpayer's money.

Of course Catholic Charities could have continued to provide adoption services to children, and could have chosen to discriminate against gay couples to boot. All they had to do was refuse to accept public funds.

Guess we know where their priorities were.

Do they accept public funds through taxes or through charitable donations?

[gingele]

Originally Posted by STOGEY

Do they accept public funds through taxes or through charitable donations?

Charitable donations are private funds, Stog.

[melliedee]

So, the free market is evil?

Mr. Romney expressed astonishment that his GOP rivals were turning the primary into what he called a "trial" of free enterprise by attacking his record at Bain, a move he said he expected to come from President Barack Obama and the Democrats. A statement earlier from his campaign was more direct. "It's sad to see Speaker Gingrich lashing out with attacks on free enterprise because his own campaign is floundering," it read.

In his speech Monday, Mr. Perry highlighted two Bain buyouts in South Carolina. He accused the former governor of laying off hundreds of workers from both companies, Holson Burnes, a maker of picture frames and scrap books, and GS Industries, a steel mill, while Bain garnered a combined $85 million in management fees.

The attacks prompted angry responses from some Republican interest groups and business leaders. Chris Chocola, president of the Club for Growth, an organization of free-market conservatives, called Mr. Gingrich's criticisms "disgusting'' and praised Mr. Romney for creating jobs and wealth through investments in Staples, Domino's Pizza and other companies.

And didn't Gingrich say that the super pacs should not be producing negative ads?

An outside super PAC supporting Mr. Gingrich announced plans Monday to spend nearly $3.5 million in South Carolina, much of it on ads focusing on companies that Mr. Romney and his Bain partners took over, and eventually shuttered, in the Palmetto State. The group also plans to release a 28-minute film that a onetime Romney adviser made, featuring interviews with more than a dozen people who lost their jobs at companies that Bain took over.

This was NOT brought to you by the DNC, but I'm sure they'll appreciate the opposition research.

Rivals Attack Romney on His Bain Record - WSJ.com

[roni]

Another photo directed at no one in particular

[Elysium]

As advanced social thinkers rediscover the power of faith-based institutions to rescue the down-and-out by transforming the dysfunctional worldview that often lies at the root of their difficulties, you would think that Catholic Charities USA would be a perfect model to emulate, getting the poor into the mainstream by emphasizing moral values and ethical conduct. But no: rather than trying to promote traditional values and God-fearing behavior, Catholic Charities—and the same could be said about the Association of Jewish Family and Children's Agencies or the Lutheran Services in America—has become over the last three decades an arm of the welfare state, with 65 percent of its $2.3 billion annual budget now flowing from government sources and little that is explicitly religious, or even values-laden, about most of the services its 1,400 member agencies and 46,000 paid employees provide.
Catholic Charities rejected its long-standing emphasis on personal responsibility and self-reliance and began to blame capitalist society rather than individual behavior for poverty and crime. It now looked to the welfare state to solve all social problems. Today, through a continual whirlwind of policy statements and lobbying, and by fostering countless activist community organizations, Catholic Charities has become, as Richard John Neuhaus, a priest and editor of the esteemed religious journal First Things, puts it, "a chief apologist for a catastrophically destructive welfare system, and it stands in the way of developing alternatives to help people break out of dependency and take charge of their lives."
How Catholic Charities Lost Its Soul by Brian C. Anderson, City Journal Winter 2000

It has changed apparently but not necessarily in the way you would think.

[melliedee]

Geez, Romney, why don't you just get a top hat and monocle costume?

"I like being able to fire people who provide services to me," Romney said at a Monday breakfast in New Hampshire, when talking about health care. "You know, if someone doesn't give me a good service that I need, I want to say, 'I'm going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.'"

Mitt Romney: "I like being able to fire people" for bad service - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Perry's already got this quote (fully out of context) on a ring tone. You think I'm kidding, don't you?

The downloadable ring tone plays Romney's words "I like being able to fire people" on repeat and was offered to supporters through his website Monday.

[STOGEY]

Originally Posted by gingele

Charitable donations are private funds, Stog.

So you tried to pull a fast one. As usual it didn't work. Catholic Charities are no different than the NAACP. In which they're a non profit organization. Therefore they can not be regulated by state restrictions.


So the GLBT supports the murdering of unborn children.