The new Bennetton GOP (?) Redux

[RussTX]

I love Ron Paul but Sarah Palin ... what a dufus.

[ryberg]

The show today between Steele and Limbaugh seems to be just adding fuel to the confusing fire. As an analyst on CNN just put it, "I know you are, but what am I?" is not exactly a party approach that will appeal to a lot of moderates...

Steve

[ryberg]

Guess I should have gotten it right the second time around: the new Bennetton Hip-Hop GOP (?).

From this really quite interesting and entertaining article on Obama but also on Bush and Reagan (and why Clinton gets mostly left out, I don't know!), we have

Notably, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele has used phrases recently like “bling bling” to describe the stimulus package and “off the hook” to describe the new RNC outreach plans, at a time when he is trying to step up the party’s appeal to African-American voters.

Steve

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by ryberg

The show today between Steele and Limbaugh seems to be just adding fuel to the confusing fire. As an analyst on CNN just put it, "I know you are, but what am I?" is not exactly a party approach that will appeal to a lot of moderates...

Steve

Steele should've stuck to his guns instead of bowing to that bloated windbag. I guess the defense, "Limbaugh is just an entertainer" is no longer valid. He's now a true leader of the party. My condolences. And I mean that sincerely. I don't find it funny at all, just sad and embarrassing.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Steele should've stuck to his guns instead of bowing to that bloated windbag. I guess the defense, "Limbaugh is just an entertainer" is no longer valid. He's now a true leader of the party. My condolences. And I mean that sincerely. I don't find it funny at all, just sad and embarrassing.

Well, I agree. And I think the bolded part is a very good point to make.

For the record, I don't think it's funny so much as just... Well, bewildering, for one. It's more... It's the sort of fascination of a slow-motion train wreck, or something. You just can''t take your eyes off it, in all its ugly, destructive glory...

Steve

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Well, I agree. And I think the bolded part is a very good point to make.

For the record, I don't think it's funny so much as just... Well, bewildering, for one. It's more... It's the sort of fascination of a slow-motion train wreck, or something. You just can''t take your eyes off it, in all its ugly, destructive glory...

Steve

Bewildering is the perfect word. I was trying to come up with a liberal equivalent and I'm stumped. Any time someone takes issue with something stupid or controversial Michael Moore, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann or Janeane Garafolo has said I can thankfully say with assurance that those people do not speak directly for the Democratic party. You can argue influence and public perception, ok. But nothing near the power of Limpbag and his legion of dittoheads.

The GOP can faction off with their more moderate arm entact, or else they're stuck with Limbaugh simply because they don't have the stones to defy him.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Bewildering is the perfect word. I was trying to come up with a liberal equivalent and I'm stumped. Any time someone takes issue with something stupid or controversial Michael Moore, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann or Janeane Garafolo has said I can thankfully say with assurance that those people do not speak directly for the Democratic party. You can argue influence and public perception, ok. But nothing near the power of Limpbag and his legion of dittoheads.

The GOP can faction off with their more moderate arm entact, or else they're stuck with Limbaugh simply because they don't have the stones to defy him.

Gosh it is nice to have you back on the forum.

[roni]

Another kissing of the ring

Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.) said Monday night that he was pleased to see Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele apologize to radio host Rush Limbaugh, whom he called a “leader for many conservatives.”

“I'm glad he apologized,” Jindal said during an interview on CNN’s “Larry King Live.”

“I think the chairman is a breath of fresh air for the party,” he added. “As I said before, I think Rush is a leader for many conservatives and says things that people are concerned about. [He] articulates very well the concern people have about growing government spending without an end in sight.”

politico.com

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Gosh it is nice to have you back on the forum.

Aw, thanks.

Originally Posted by roni

Another kissing of the ring



politico.com

Barf. Seriously, what is the deal? It's like everyone in the GOP has become a gaggle of 12 year old girls and Rush is the Queen Bee. He decides who sits at the popular table, what color they are wearing on what day, and when and if something is funny/important/true. It's like Mean Girls with blazers and comb-overs.

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Bewildering is the perfect word. I was trying to come up with a liberal equivalent and I'm stumped. Any time someone takes issue with something stupid or controversial Michael Moore, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann or Janeane Garafolo has said I can thankfully say with assurance that those people do not speak directly for the Democratic party. You can argue influence and public perception, ok. But nothing near the power of Limpbag and his legion of dittoheads.

The GOP can faction off with their more moderate arm entact, or else they're stuck with Limbaugh simply because they don't have the stones to defy him.

That sure is how it looks, with even the official head of the party, Steele, apologizing to him the other day, and now Jindal's comments lauding the same.

Don't see much conservative reaction on this, here, lately. But then I think it would be too embarrassing to want to comment on, or even think about, if I were a conservative...

Steve

[ryberg]

As Ben Smith says, Dems are having a bit of fun with this thing:

Steve

[Jacko]

From the Lehrer Newshour Steele-Limbaugh Clash Sparks Debate Over Next Steps for GOP Isn't this the Republicans eating their own?

"We've" removed the boat anchor? This is Grover Norquist..Conservative activist and former Bush advisor...

GWEN IFILL: Grover Norquist, the Republicans are at a crossroads. You did lose ground in the Congress this year. You lost ground, obviously, in the White House and governors mansions.

So how does the Republican Party now get itself back on track? This is the same dilemma Democrats faced not very long ago.

GROVER NORQUIST: Sure. Well, step one is we've removed the boat anchor that we were carrying around for the last eight years, and that was President Bush and his failure to focus on running the government and keeping it limited in its costs and what it's doing.

And so no longer having to defend the indefensible in some of Bush's spending programs and regulatory regimes and new ideas that we were all going to pay for is step one.

And step two is to focus on limiting the power and cost of government, and the House and Senate Republicans are doing a pretty good job of uniting around Ronald Reagan's view of limited government and a strong national defense.

[MWC]

Originally Posted by Jacko

From the Lehrer Newshour Steele-Limbaugh Clash Sparks Debate Over Next Steps for GOP Isn't this the Republicans eating their own?

"We've" removed the boat anchor? This is Grover Norquist..Conservative activist and former Bush advisor...

GWEN IFILL: Grover Norquist, the Republicans are at a crossroads. You did lose ground in the Congress this year. You lost ground, obviously, in the White House and governors mansions.

So how does the Republican Party now get itself back on track? This is the same dilemma Democrats faced not very long ago.

GROVER NORQUIST: Sure. Well, step one is we've removed the boat anchor that we were carrying around for the last eight years, and that was President Bush and his failure to focus on running the government and keeping it limited in its costs and what it's doing.

And so no longer having to defend the indefensible in some of Bush's spending programs and regulatory regimes and new ideas that we were all going to pay for is step one.

And step two is to focus on limiting the power and cost of government, and the House and Senate Republicans are doing a pretty good job of uniting around Ronald Reagan's view of limited government and a strong national defense.

That is a huge issue of credibility that the Repubs will have a hard time dismantling themselves from. You can't have spent those 8 years "selling" Americans on W, then backtrack like that. Think of all the venom that was generated just on this board from both sides -- the pro-Ws and the anti's -- and a more reasonable person would see the folly of what the Repubs are currently trying to do.

[Jacko]

Originally Posted by MWC

That is a huge issue of credibility that the Repubs will have a hard time dismantling themselves from. You can't have spent those 8 years "selling" Americans on W, then backtrack like that. Think of all the venom that was generated just on this board from both sides -- the pro-Ws and the anti's -- and a more reasonable person would see the folly of what the Repubs are currently trying to do.

Oh I dunno..aren't they really just saying they have come to the realization that we were right all along about that? And that they really should just listen to us earlier in the game and save themselves a lot of trouble?

[ryberg]

Originally Posted by Jacko

Oh I dunno..aren't they really just saying they have come to the realization that we were right all along about that? And that they really should just listen to us earlier in the game and save themselves a lot of trouble?

Well, yeah... like she said, there's a huge issue of credibility...



Steve