Climate Change- Are Our Genes to Blame for our Inaction?

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by ryberg

Really?

yeah, really....the whole world was pretty much a desert- at least figuratively, 250 million years ago....


the Great Dying



So Saturday night was 'Earth Hour'. My province used 5% more electricity than during last year's Earth Hour. Methinks that idea has run it's course.

[D33RHUNT3R]

U.S. News - Climate change scientists look back -- 3 million years -- to look to future


Imagine that ...

They have concluded that the most revealing slice of time is the Pliocene Epoch, a warm, wet period between 3.15 million and 2.85 million years ago, when the world probably looked and felt much as it does now.

Global temperatures and the amount of heat-trapping carbon dioxide in the atmosphere were similar to today's climate, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.



Hmmm, No Humans to cause it !! how can this be... ??

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by D33RHUNT3R

U.S. News - Climate change scientists look back -- 3 million years -- to look to future


Imagine that ...

They have concluded that the most revealing slice of time is the Pliocene Epoch, a warm, wet period between 3.15 million and 2.85 million years ago, when the world probably looked and felt much as it does now.

Global temperatures and the amount of heat-trapping carbon dioxide in the atmosphere were similar to today's climate, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.



Hmmm, No Humans to cause it !! how can this be... ??

You never tire of perpetuating myths do you....


Speaking of perpetuating myths- how can you be holding up something about the state of the earth's climate 3 million years ago like it's proof of your point of view- when you yourself only think the earth is 6000 years old- by your own admission??

[D33RHUNT3R]

Originally Posted by Rissask

You never tire of perpetuating myths do you....


Speaking of perpetuating myths- how can you be holding up something about the state of the earth's climate 3 million years ago like it's proof of your point of view- when you yourself only think the earth is 6000 years old- by your own admission??

No... I said I believe MAN ( since Adam & Eve) has only been on Earth about 6000 yrs.. I have no idea how old the Earth is... and it really doesn't matter..

Oh so these scientist are reporting myths But the global climate change created by MAN is not

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by D33RHUNT3R

No... I said I believe MAN ( since Adam & Eve) has only been on Earth about 6000 yrs.. I have no idea how old the Earth is... and it really doesn't matter..

Oh so these scientist are reporting myths But the global climate change created by MAN is not

No one is claiming that mankind's activities is the 100% cause of climate change, though.

Where did you get that idea? Who said that? Link?


And I could have sworn you claimed to be a Young Earther at least once. Hmmm. Okay.

[D33RHUNT3R]

Originally Posted by Rissask

No one is claiming that mankind's activities is the 100% cause of climate change, though.

Where did you get that idea? Who said that? Link?


And I could have sworn you claimed to be a Young Earther at least once. Hmmm. Okay.

Oh----- ok so what % is from MAN MADE---- Climate Change ? AKA Global Warming ?... AKA New Ice Age ?.. depending on which decade in which century your talking about ..

link please... never heard this % thing before .. I'm very intrested...

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by D33RHUNT3R

Oh----- ok so what % is from MAN MADE---- Climate Change ? AKA Global Warming ?... AKA New Ice Age ?.. depending on which decade in which century your talking about ..

link please... never heard this % thing before .. I'm very intrested...

They (as in those who actually STUDY this stuff) don't KNOW what percentage can be attributed to man's activities- burning of fossil fuels mainly.

Anyone who would claim that mankind is entirely 'to blame' for the current speeded up changes is off base. The climate is always changing....it's just changing more rapidly today.

Plus they don't know if it can be reversed, even if we all stopped polluting tomorrow.

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by D33RHUNT3R

No... I said I believe MAN ( since Adam & Eve) has only been on Earth about 6000 yrs.. I have no idea how old the Earth is... and it really doesn't matter..

Oh so these scientist are reporting myths But the global climate change created by MAN is not

You better check your bible. If you believe in the time line in Genesis, the max age of Earth is 6,000-8,000 years.

Of course if you don't take the biblical time line literally, that's another story.

[snappysammy]

Originally Posted by melliedee

You better check your bible. If you believe in the time line in Genesis, the max age of Earth is 6,000-8,000 years.

Of course if you don't take the biblical time line literally, that's another story.

i really don't think it is fair when you guys throw facts at arkieboy

[D33RHUNT3R]

Originally Posted by Rissask

They (as in those who actually STUDY this stuff) don't KNOW what percentage can be attributed to man's activities- burning of fossil fuels mainly.

Anyone who would claim that mankind is entirely 'to blame' for the current speeded up changes is off base. The climate is always changing....it's just changing more rapidly today.

Plus they don't know if it can be reversed, even if we all stopped polluting tomorrow.

Seem's for some of the claims out there .. THEY DONT KNOW.. A LOT ..


If they don't know the % as you claim, it could be .00000000000000001 % right ... Its also possiable then that man has actually has no significant effect on the climate ..Because they JUST DONT KNOW....

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by D33RHUNT3R

Seem's for some of the claims out there .. THEY DONT KNOW.. A LOT ..


If they don't know the % as you claim, it could be .00000000000000001 % right ... Its also possiable then that man has actually has no significant effect on the climate ..Because they JUST DONT KNOW....

Anyone with at least half a brain () should know that we have a pretty big negative impact on the environment, DH.

You do know how world population has jumped in the past 50 years even, right? How much of the nonrenewable natural resources we are mining and using up? How much of the world's fresh water we are polluting? how we are ruining the soil by over-use and improper farming practices and polluting with salt and chemicals and poisons? How we are spewing toxins into the atmosphere at an ever-increasing rate?

How none of these things are going to be reversed until something major happens and the population falls dramatically?

If you don't know these things, open your eyes. If you think for a second they are NOT impacting the planet negatively, open your eyes. You don't shit where you eat'- good rule, but we are going it. And we are too stupid to stop.


The only thing than might save us is the planet might be be more forgiving than scientists think it might be....that is really the unknown part here.

It will either adapt to our abuse, and we will adapt in turn, or it will just kill us off.

[Robinhood]

Even as climate alarmists amplify their call for a worldwide tax on carbon dioxide emissions in the name of preventing global warming – penguins, polar bears, Himalayan glaciers and Arctic sea ice are all thriving.

With dire proclamations of ice free Arctic summers vehemently debunked, the latest data indicates that both wildlife and the environment in earth’s coldest regions has not experienced the catastrophic devastation predicted as a result of man-made climate change.

Forecasts that Canada’s polar bear population would significantly decline due to global warming have been proven completely inaccurate. The latest study shows that the Hudson Bay area polar bear population has remained steady at around 1000 – the same number found by a 2004 study, confounding the “doom-and-gloom” predictions of environmentalists about the demise of the polar bear (which) have failed to come true,” reports the Canadian Press.

“We are not observing these impacts right at this moment in time. And it is not a crisis situation as a lot of people would like the world to believe it is,” said Drikus Gissing, Nunavut’s director of wildlife management.

Meanwhile, “A new study using satellite mapping technology reveals there are twice as many emperor penguins in Antarctica than previously thought,” reports Live Science.

Using state of the art technology that can single out penguins from other birds, researchers counted almost 600,000 penguins around the coastal regions, almost double the previous estimate of 270,000-350,000.

But it’s not just wildlife that is contradicting the claims of climate change alarmists, the environment itself is not behaving as global warming data models predicted.

Satellite data produced by French researchers shows that glaciers in the western Himalayan region are “putting on mass” rather than melting completely as doomsayers had warned in a 2007 UN IPCC report, which claimed that most of the region would be ice free by 2035.

Despite the findings, BBC News, an ardent promoter of climate change propaganda, blamed the thickening of the glaciers on man-made global warming. When the earth last showed similar activity back in the 1970′s, the same scientific establishment which now pushes anthropogenic global warming blamed the changes on global cooling.

New research from the Arctic’s Bering Sea also found that ice is thickening.

“The amount of floating ice in the Arctic’s Bering Sea – which had long been expected to retreat disastrously by climate-Cassandra organisations such as Greenpeace – reached all-time record high levels last month, according to US researchers monitoring the area using satellites,” reports the Register.

The article points to a 1999 Greenpeace prediction that sea ice in the area “could vanish altogether,” another piece of alarmist propaganda debunked by reality.

Despite a multitude of data that continually serves to eviscerate the pseudo-science behind man-made global warming, illustrating again that the earth has gone through natural warming and cooling cycles since its very genesis, climate change snake oil salesmen like NASA’s James Hansen, who this week will call for a global tax on CO2 emissions, continue to ignore real science in pursuit of their political agenda to exploit heartfelt environmental concerns for profit and power.

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[deep six]

Originally Posted by Rissask

Anyone with at least half a brain () should know that we have a pretty big negative impact on the environment, DH.

You do know how world population has jumped in the past 50 years even, right? How much of the nonrenewable natural resources we are mining and using up? How much of the world's fresh water we are polluting? how we are ruining the soil by over-use and improper farming practices and polluting with salt and chemicals and poisons? How we are spewing toxins into the atmosphere at an ever-increasing rate?

How none of these things are going to be reversed until something major happens and the population falls dramatically?

If you don't know these things, open your eyes. If you think for a second they are NOT impacting the planet negatively, open your eyes. You don't shit where you eat'- good rule, but we are going it. And we are too stupid to stop.


The only thing than might save us is the planet might be be more forgiving than scientists think it might be....that is really the unknown part here.

It will either adapt to our abuse, and we will adapt in turn, or it will just kill us off.

The planet will shake us off like a flea someday.The planet will be fine.

[Rissask]

Originally Posted by deep six

The world will shake us off like a flea someday.The world will be fine.

Yeah, I think you might be right.

It's not the planet the environmentalists should really be concerned about, it's us.

We are just a temporary blip. Sorry to those who for some reason this offends.

[deep six]

Originally Posted by Rissask

Yeah, I think you might be right.

It's not the planet the environmentalists should really be concerned about, it's us.

We are just a temporary blip. Sorry to those who for some reason this offends.

And a small one at that.We have a long...........way to go to match the dinosaurs existance.