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Old 11-25-2015   #751 (permalink)
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Is it safe?

Hi there,

I lived for about 5 years in Mexico City about 15 years ago, well known to be dangerous back than and now. In my opinion is (it was back than?) dangerous if you were stupid enough to behave like an idiot or if you went to places where the locals clearly told not to go. I never had any issue. We used to drive down to Acapulco, drove out to the virgin ocean to the villages where were no tourist, no vendors, we used to spend the day, the guys were fishing and the village people cooked the fish up for us to eat and we absolutely loved it. Things changed a lot since than, I live in the States, I have a little two yaers old boy now to keep safe and an American husband who doesn't really knows anything about other cultures and never been in another county. We are coming to vacation to Playa Del Carmen in January and I was wondering if anything like this would be an option within driving distance of Playa Del Carmen? We will stay in a Al but I don't want to spend all my vacation drinking Margaritas and laying by the pool but of course I dont want to get us in trouble either. Any thoughts?
thanks
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Old 11-26-2015   #752 (permalink)
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Hi, my familly and i are retourning to Cancun and puerto aventura for the 7 th Times.We drive arround and we never encounter problems.In my opinion,the Riviera maya is safe.But you know that when you Looking for trouble,you find it.So whit a safe attitude and respect for the local,you should enjoy This paradise.My sister want us to go to Europe,Well we feel safer in Mexico.We drive to Tulum,xcasel,Akumal,isla mujeres,go to the shopping center downtown Cancun ,go to the casinos ect, whit out problems.Enjoy it ,its Worth it!
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Hi there,

I lived for about 5 years in Mexico City about 15 years ago, well known to be dangerous back than and now. In my opinion is (it was back than?) dangerous if you were stupid enough to behave like an idiot or if you went to places where the locals clearly told not to go. I never had any issue. We used to drive down to Acapulco, drove out to the virgin ocean to the villages where were no tourist, no vendors, we used to spend the day, the guys were fishing and the village people cooked the fish up for us to eat and we absolutely loved it. Things changed a lot since than, I live in the States, I have a little two yaers old boy now to keep safe and an American husband who doesn't really knows anything about other cultures and never been in another county. We are coming to vacation to Playa Del Carmen in January and I was wondering if anything like this would be an option within driving distance of Playa Del Carmen? We will stay in a Al but I don't want to spend all my vacation drinking Margaritas and laying by the pool but of course I dont want to get us in trouble either. Any thoughts?
thanks
Don't miss Valladolid for sure. Great town to visit.
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Hi there,

I lived for about 5 years in Mexico City about 15 years ago, well known to be dangerous back than and now. In my opinion is (it was back than?) dangerous if you were stupid enough to behave like an idiot or if you went to places where the locals clearly told not to go. I never had any issue. We used to drive down to Acapulco, drove out to the virgin ocean to the villages where were no tourist, no vendors, we used to spend the day, the guys were fishing and the village people cooked the fish up for us to eat and we absolutely loved it. Things changed a lot since than, I live in the States, I have a little two yaers old boy now to keep safe and an American husband who doesn't really knows anything about other cultures and never been in another county. We are coming to vacation to Playa Del Carmen in January and I was wondering if anything like this would be an option within driving distance of Playa Del Carmen? We will stay in a Al but I don't want to spend all my vacation drinking Margaritas and laying by the pool but of course I dont want to get us in trouble either. Any thoughts?
thanks
Your travel experience should be enough to prevent safety issues. Unless having a two year old has caused the loss of your sanity.

AL's recommendation for Valladolid is excellent. It is inland, but will provide an experience of the Yucatan beyond the beaches and AI resorts.

My husband and I drove from Playa del Carmen to Valladolid and on another trip we drove Cancun-Tulum-Palenque-Merida-Playa without encountering anyone nefarious. We were met with helpfulness when it was needed. Yucatecans are kind people.

Sleepy fishing village/virgin ocean may be a challenge if you want to return to the resort each night. I don't think you'll find it on a day trip, but maybe some others can fill in where my knowledge falls short.

If you're remotely the studious type and want a really cool sense of place, read Lost World of the Yucatan by Michel Pleissel. It's out of print but you can buy it on amazon.
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Great info!! thanks for taht
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This is so much true, I liked that it mentioned the fact that Mexico's road structure and streets are really damage.
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This is so much true, I liked that it mentioned the fact that Mexico's road structure and streets are really damage.
Highways in the Yucatan that I have driven on have been excellent. Just returned home to Merida via Tulum, Coba and Valladolid. Wonderful highways. Same thing driving down to Mahahual and Xcalak, down towards Belize.
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This is so much true, I liked that it mentioned the fact that Mexico's road structure and streets are really damage.
If by "it", you mean Pleissel's book, its copyright date is 1963. It's an autobiographical adventure story about an exploration of the Yucatan's east coast before the resorts were built. As Roni wrote, the roads are now excellent.
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The US and Canadian governments recently updated their travel advisories for Mexico:

and yikes....now Acapulco is deemed "travel not recommended"....I was just in Zihua a couple of weeks ago.

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Guerrero (includes Acapulco, Ixtapa, Taxco, and Zihuatanejo): Personal travel to the state of Guerrero, including Acapulco, is prohibited for U.S. government personnel with the exception of travel to Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo by air. In Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo, U.S. government personnel must remain in tourist areas. The state of Guerrero was the most violent state in Mexico in 2015 for the third year in a row, and self-defense groups operate independently of the government in many areas of Guerrero. Armed members of these groups frequently maintain roadblocks and, although not considered hostile to foreigners or tourists, are suspicious of outsiders and should be considered volatile and unpredictable.

but never left the tourist area and felt totally safe. Hopefully the situation there improves and doesn't worsen....but I guess since more North Americans than ever are abusing heroin, nothing is likely to change there.


Happily for MR fans:

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Quintana Roo (includes Cancun, Cozumel, Playa del Carmen, Riviera Maya, and Tulum): No advisory is in effect. However, U.S. citizens should exercise caution when traveling south of Felipe Carrillo Puerto or east of Jose Maria Morelos as cellular and internet services are virtually non-existent.


Yucatan (includes Merida and Chichen Itza): No advisory is in effect.
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The US and Canadian governments recently updated their travel advisories for Mexico:

and yikes....now Acapulco is deemed "travel not recommended"....
Interesting, although FWIW, I don't see that kind of language addressing just US citizens on that link. (Maybe that wording/status is on the Canadian counterpart?) As per your quote, the US link is worded to restrict only US government personnel and specifically excludes from the restriction travel to Ixtapa/Zihua by air (though it does go on to say that any such personnel must then stay in tourist areas).

Do you have the Canadian link handy?
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Well one Canadian government link that comes up doesn't appear to have the very same language but sounds more like what you were saying (while still excluding Zihua, etc):

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Global Affairs Canada advises against non-essential travel to the western states of Guerrero (including Acapulco but excluding the cities of Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo and Taxco)
(And no mention of Quintana Roo.)

Again FWIW...
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Hi there,

I lived for about 5 years in Mexico City about 15 years ago, well known to be dangerous back than and now.
I have friends who moved from Morelia to Mexico City because it was safer there.
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Steve-both countries updated their warnings recently- the US December 8, and Canada November 17.

http://inhomelandsecurity.com/state-...ravel-warning/

The Canadian one is here and was updated in November (the warning is more stressed and Acapulco has been added). Also a note in general about Zika.

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Northern States- Avoid non-essential travel

Global Affairs Canada advises against non-essential travel to the northern states of Chihuahua, Coahuila, Durango, Nuevo León (except the city of Monterrey), Sinaloa (with the exception of Mazatlán), Sonora (except the cities of Hermosillo and Guaymas/San Carlos), and Tamaulipas due to high levels of violence linked to organized crime.

Western States- avoid non-essential travel

Global Affairs Canada advises against non-essential travelto the western states of Guerrero (including Acapulco but excluding the cities of Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo and Taxco) and Michoacán (excluding the city of Morelia) due to the high levels of violence and organized crime. For the same reason, avoid non-essential travel to the areas of Jalisco state that border the states of Michoacán and Zacatecas, as well as the areas of Colima state that border Michoacán. Exercise a high degree of caution in the excluded areas.

See Safety and securityfor more information

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Criminal activity has significantly increased in the states of Guerrero, Jalisco and Michoacán. Reports of illegal roadblocks and demonstrations are also more frequent. The deterioration of the security situation is particularly noticeable in the rural areas of Guerrero and Michoacán. The rapid expansion of vigilante militias is troubling, and there have been instances where such groups have fired at vehicles that did not adhere to their roadblocks.

Jalisco is where Puerto Vallarta is.

I wouldn't travel in the interior of Jalisco, Nayarit....certainly not Guerrero (but I never do when I go there).

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Thanks.

Yeah that Canadian link is the one I had also found, in the meantime. That other link is to a non-governmental article that then links to the US State Dept link in your original post. Still not seeing that specific language or categorization you quoted on the US link (again except for what is directed at government personnel), but certainly the Canadian link reads about like that, yeah. Interesting to hear — thanks.
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I'm assuming that the official travel warnings and advisories are worded that way since they originate from the State Department's rules that spell out which countries or areas of countries they outright prohibit their employees from traveling to.

I don't know how anyone can read either advisory (or the UK one) and try to argue that they weren't trying to say 'travel not recommended' to certain very violent parts of Mexico.......but hey, I'll apologize for using quotation marks, since I can't find an official one wording it that exact way. But I'm able to read between the lines.
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