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Old 01-24-2011   #316 (permalink)
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I can see why the press were not allowed.

I was told by one Playa resident that one reason the press were not allowed in was to avoid them taking photos of the injured and dead people for publication in the local newspapers. If you saw some of the photos that did end up in the newspapers, you would probably agree. I'm not sure why the ambulances were not allowed into the resort.
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Old 01-25-2011   #317 (permalink)
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It doesn't surprise me that the hotel didn't let the ambulances in. I was told at the Grand Mayan that they didn't like to call an ambulance (I broke my leg there) because it would upset the other guests. They transported me to Hospiten Cancun in one of the hotel vans - not exactly equipped to take someone on a pool rescue board with a temporary cast on their leg. The doctor on site could not have been less helpful.
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I was told by one Playa resident that one reason the press were not allowed in was to avoid them taking photos of the injured and dead people for publication in the local newspapers. If you saw some of the photos that did end up in the newspapers, you would probably agree. I'm not sure why the ambulances were not allowed into the resort.
Not sure I would or do, but it sounds like a good excuse - The news and pictures got out anyway as you stated, so it sounds kinda lame...
Or maybe they were told to get the accident scene cleaned up as much as possible (as was reported by patrons) before everyone got a chance to see for themselves and document just how bad the situation really was...
Lets face it, this kind of news isn't going to be good for reputation and business or jobs and if the workers didn't immediately realize it, I'm sure it would be brought to their attention very quickly, so they could respond accordingly.
If you were a local and worked there or had friends or relatives that did you would probably say and do the same things to protect them or your own welfare, I'm sure.
Mexico certainly isn't noted for being timid news-wise as you alluded...
As for the ambulance(s) not getting in - I would assume many of the same reasons could and would apply...
I once heard someone in Mexico quoted as warning a visitor (not vebatim) "be careful, life isn't respected here as much as where you come from"...
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Sorry I think wording in the quote was "valued" instead of "respected"...
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Old 01-27-2011   #320 (permalink)
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I just found this thread. I actually stayed at the Grand Riviera Princess with my husband and 2 kids only about 2 months before the explosion. I must say, when we heard about the incident, we were not surprised. When we stayed there, we had a major issue with mosquitoes in one of our rooms. Not both rooms, only one. Seemed that they were getting into the room from somewhere. We determined it was the sewage drains.
Second, throughout the entire resort there were all these horrible sewage smells. Again... signs of a problem. Lastly, the ocean was this dark, awful brown colour for our entire stay. When we asked why that was we were told it was from water filtration. Ah, do you mean sewage run-off ??
If you ask me, the resort was built on a sewage site. It was one of the last resorts to develop in the area, and I think they got a bad pick of the locations. IMHO, staff at the resort are not at fault for the explosion - just poor filtration. I am shocked to hear they reopened the resort. We certainly will never go back to it.
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The whole area is built on porous limestone - and even the semi-treated sewage from these resorts has to go somewhere...
I would suspect the age and efficiency of on-site facilities are often dated and rules of inspection, efficiency, and certification are as lax as other Gov't or reguatory standards (read $$ & graft) in Mexico.
That would certainly lead to issues like you and many others have commented on, not only for this particular resort but many others as well.
They would deny pumping sewage it into the seawater - but it would go there eventually regardless... and I suspect and from what I have heard it has been noted as being done directly in many cases and probably still is!
You are aware though from this thread, that the explosion as investigated, was not caused as first stated, by sewage or underground gas pockets - but by a broken natural or propane gas line illegally placed during construction are you not?
Again this points to a situation where officials can be paid to look the other way during construction (not a unique feature to Mexico admittedly) so why would sewage issues, on-site plant operations, treatment quality, and disposal fair any better?
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the princess resort is built in a mangrove swamp...mosquitos live there...what you smell is the smell of a mangrove swamp...what you see is the water colour of a mangrove swamp...nothing more...nothing less...sonofdob.
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More information regarding the original topic of this post ...


Mexico files charges in hotel blast that killed seven - The Globe and Mail
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Old 08-05-2011   #324 (permalink)
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Charges dropped - CBC Report August 11,2011

Mexico hotel blast criminal charges dropped

'No justice served,' says Canadian woman who lost husband and son

CBC News

Posted: Aug 4, 2011 7:35 PM ET

Last Updated: Aug 4, 2011 10:40 PM ET


A Mexican judge has dropped the criminal charges involving a 2010 blast at a Playa del Carmen resort that killed seven people, including five Canadians, CBC News has learned after obtaining an email from Foreign Affairs.
The blast ripped through part of the Grand Riviera Princess Hotel in Playa del Carmen last November, injuring 17 people and killing seven.
Terra Charmont, an Alberta woman who lost her husband and son in the explosion, said it was a blow to hear that the charges have been dismissed.
Christopher Charmont and his son John were among the Canadians killed in the hotel blast. (Toronto Star) "There hasn't been any justice served it was just very disappointing," she said.
There were several theories about what caused the blast, but it was ultimately revealed that there was an unauthorized extension of a gas line under the hotel's lounge. The line had apparently been damaged and leaked prior to the explosion, said Mexican Attorney General Francisco Alor.
Five people, including contractors and workers at the resort, faced charges ranging from homicide to professional misconduct after the blast.
An email from Canada's Department of Foreign Affairs said the "judge indicated that after reviewing the elements brought forward, these did not prove that the defendants had committed a crime."
CBC's Alicia Asquith said the judge didn't find enough evidence proving exactly who was to blame and concluded the case would be better suited to civil court.
That decision was "baffling," according to Russ Brown, an Edmonton lawyer helping families associated with the case.
"When you have an event of this magnitude, with an explosion, tampered building plans, with multiple fatalities, you would think there would be some sort of consequences visited," he said.
He said the lack of conclusions in the case should have led to a larger inquiry, not to charges being dismissed.
Charmont is pursuing a civil suit. She said she would also like to see the Canadian government "supporting its citizens a lot more, and we haven't received any support from that end either."
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Old 08-05-2011   #325 (permalink)
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Apparantly the Judge deemed this incident as a horrible tradegy. In fact it surely was...
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The lawsuit might have stood a better chance had the charge just been negligence.
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