Texas ultrasound law

[melliedee]

(CNN) -- Abortion rights advocates plan to rally in Texas Tuesday after state lawmakers approved controversial legislaton that requires mothers seeking an abortion to undergo an ultrasound examination and listen to a description of what it shows.

The House measure requires 24 hours to pass after the ultrasound before a woman can have an abortion, while the Senate version allows just two hours.

"A woman should have a day, at least, to think about the information she's receiving about the abortion procedure," anti-abortion advocate Joe Pojman told KVUE.

The Senate version also allows a woman to choose not to see the images or sounds if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, or if the fetus has an irreversible medical condition. The House version contains no such provisions, KVUE said.

Texas lawmakers approve bills requiring ultrasound before abortion - CNN.com


What do you think? Especially those who are strict constitutionalists?

[beer_dude]

Originally Posted by melliedee

Texas lawmakers approve bills requiring ultrasound before abortion - CNN.com


What do you think? Especially those who are strict constitutionalists?

The constitution says a woman has a right to an abortion with certain restrictions. I am not sure they should be messing with that constitutional right.

Speaking strictly on the case of rape or incest, I think it is cruel and unusual to force a woman to endure an ultrasound prior to having an abortion.

For other cases, I could see where being forced to endure an ultrasound would inflict unnecessary emotional damage for the woman who wishes to exercise her constitutional right to an abortion.

[STOGEY]

What amendment of the constitution gives a woman the right to an abortion?

[beer_dude]

Originally Posted by STOGEY

What amendment of the constitution gives a woman the right to an abortion?

1973 roe vs wade 14th Amendment.

Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[STOGEY]

Originally Posted by beer_dude

1973 roe vs wade 14th Amendment.

Roe v. Wade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They're not the constitution.

[beer_dude]

Originally Posted by STOGEY

They're not the constitution.

The 14th Amendment of the constitution of the United States of America is not in the constitution? Really? Put the bong down Stogey!!!

[duffey]

Originally Posted by beer_dude

The 14th Amendment of the constitution of the United States of America is not in the constitution? Really? Put the bong down Stogey!!!

It's not the whole Amendment but a clause under due process. Nevertheless it's the law.

I like the bong quote.

[STOGEY]

The 14th amendment talks about who is a citizen. It Says nothing about abortion or abortion rights.

[duffey]

Originally Posted by STOGEY

The 14th amendment talks about who is a citizen. It Says nothing about abortion or abortion rights.

Like I said. It's a clause in the 14th amendment under due process.

Find it.
Read it.
Believe it.

[TJordan]

I'm not a woman, so my opinion means nothing here...but here it is anyways...


I hate the abortion debate. People seem to be so far extreme on one side of the other, that it seems to be a pointless argument most of the time.

That being said, it doesn't seem right to me to force a woman to do this...I can understand their reasoning, but you're still FORCING a woman to do something that she may not want to do at all....It is their body...Let them make a choice.

However, if it does pass, I really really hope that the law makes an exception in cases of rape/incest...

The end...

[melliedee]

I wasn't asking about the constitutionality of abortion, rather wondering how some of the same folks who think forcing citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional, yet forcing a woman's doctor to perform an unnecessary medical procedure before obtaining a legal abortion is not unconstitutional?

Save Roe v Wade for another day; abortion is legal. Just how many government officials can we get into our doctor's offices?

[melliedee]

Some interesting amendments which failed, but made their points:

Dutton offered another amendment that would have compelled the state to pay for that child's health care until age 18, as well as a third amendment to pay for the child's health care up until age six. All three amendments failed.


"We want to see all these children around, but the state of Texas ends its obligation to that child when it's born," Dutton said, according to the Tribune. "We want it born, but we don't want to do our duty."


State Rep. Marisa Marquez offered an amendment that would have allowed a woman, after being compelled to receive a sonogram, to force the unborn child's father to undergo a vasectomy. That amendment also failed.

Texas House set to pass bill requiring a sonogram before having an abortion - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

[beer_dude]

Originally Posted by melliedee

I wasn't asking about the constitutionality of abortion, rather wondering how some of the same folks who think forcing citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional, yet forcing a woman's doctor to perform an unnecessary medical procedure before obtaining a legal abortion is not unconstitutional?

Save Roe v Wade for another day; abortion is legal. Just how many government officials can we get into our doctor's offices?

Oh, well you should have provided a program guide!

[melliedee]

Originally Posted by beer_dude

Oh, well you should have provided a program guide!

Sorry, I didn't want it to become a is there a right to privacy in the constitution debate. We did that last month.

[duffey]

Originally Posted by melliedee

I wasn't asking about the constitutionality of abortion, rather wondering how some of the same folks who think forcing citizens to buy health insurance is unconstitutional, yet forcing a woman's doctor to perform an unnecessary medical procedure before obtaining a legal abortion is not unconstitutional?

Save Roe v Wade for another day; abortion is legal. Just how many government officials can we get into our doctor's offices?

I'm not arguing whether abortion is constitutional or not either.
I'm just trying to point out to Stogey that it's in the 14th amendment.

I'm sorry i don't have an opinion on your original question.But I will continue to watch what others have to say until I get bored then I will move on to the random thought thread.
That one doesn't hurt my head as much

Carry on.