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Old 05-20-2011   #46 (permalink)
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Aren't there any laws in Mexico against this sort of thing?

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Old 05-21-2011   #47 (permalink)
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....I know this thread won't be up forever....but it sure would be nice to know if the lion cub was rescued to a secure, safe and hopefully happy environment.
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Didn't read the whole thread, but we saw a baby panther in this same area the first week of May. Had to do a double take since I first thought it was a dog. The lady claimed it was 6 weeks old.
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I don't think anyone will do anything, I'm sure authorities have already seen it, and nothing has happened, so, it never will.
Unless there is a huge movement behind the rescue.
As a foreigner living here, I cannot do what I would do if I were living in my country.
This is too sad, I hope I won't ever see it.
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I have been unsuccessful in getting a response from Semerat & other government, Natural resouce departments in Mexico. I've been in touch with a wildlife sanctury in the US & they gave good advise on approaching this matter with a different tact....as involving governments & dealing with legalities often takes a very, very long time. Anna is right regarding the frustration of getting government to do anything.

I'm arriving Playa in less than a week & plan to try the approach the sanctuary suggested. This would be to establish a relationship with the owner/handler by offering a free Veterinarian exam for the cub and a supply of food. If he cooperates, the vet can educate the owner/handler regarding the future of the cub, important care concerns & encourage the owner/handler to surrender the cub to a Wildlife Sancturary. Hopefully, he can be convinced that the growing cost of food as the cub grows, and the likelihood that he will no longer be able to showcase a large lion on 5th avenue will be a financial problem for him in the very near future..and thus motivate him to do the right thing. Fingers crossed for a good outcome!

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P.S. At the very least, I hope we can get the lion cub examined & treated....and identify the owner & his location for future followup.
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I have been unsuccessful in getting a response from Semerat & other government, Natural resouce departments in Mexico. I've been in touch with a wildlife sanctury in the US & they gave good advise on approaching this matter with a different tact....as involving governments & dealing with legalities often takes a very, very long time. Anna is right regarding the frustration of getting government to do anything.

I'm arriving Playa in less than a week & plan to try the approach the sanctuary suggested. This would be to establish a relationship with the owner/handler by offering a free Veterinarian exam for the cub and a supply of food. If he cooperates, the vet can educate the owner/handler regarding the future of the cub, important care concerns & encourage the owner/handler to surrender the cub to a Wildlife Sancturary. Hopefully, he can be convinced that the growing cost of food as the cub grows, and the likelihood that he will no longer be able to showcase a large lion on 5th avenue will be a financial problem for him in the very near future..and thus motivate him to do the right thing. Fingers crossed for a good outcome!

Maureen

P.S. At the very least, I hope we can get the lion cub examined & treated....and identify the owner & his location for future followup.
again,we thank you very much for the effort.thank you
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I know, its so frustration, we have been trying to call Semerat without success too. Its frustrating and very annoying

I doubt very much that these people give a damn about the animals. And if they do give up the cub, its only to purchase illegaly a new, smaller, cuter one.
it happens all the time.
These people don't care. They only care about $$$$$


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I have been unsuccessful in getting a response from Semerat & other government, Natural resouce departments in Mexico. I've been in touch with a wildlife sanctury in the US & they gave good advise on approaching this matter with a different tact....as involving governments & dealing with legalities often takes a very, very long time. Anna is right regarding the frustration of getting government to do anything.

I'm arriving Playa in less than a week & plan to try the approach the sanctuary suggested. This would be to establish a relationship with the owner/handler by offering a free Veterinarian exam for the cub and a supply of food. If he cooperates, the vet can educate the owner/handler regarding the future of the cub, important care concerns & encourage the owner/handler to surrender the cub to a Wildlife Sancturary. Hopefully, he can be convinced that the growing cost of food as the cub grows, and the likelihood that he will no longer be able to showcase a large lion on 5th avenue will be a financial problem for him in the very near future..and thus motivate him to do the right thing. Fingers crossed for a good outcome!

Maureen

P.S. At the very least, I hope we can get the lion cub examined & treated....and identify the owner & his location for future followup.
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We saw both cubs when we were there last week. The lion cub was panting a lot. It was very sad.
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Mexico has a patronage system rather than the civil service system most of us are used to. I am not adverse to making a donation for a charitable contribution through to the proper official to expedite an investigation into the matter. When in Rome,
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P.S. At the very least, I hope we can get the lion cub examined & treated....and identify the owner & his location for future followup.
I have a feeling you'll encounter resistance to any attempts you make, Maureen, and it'll be an experience for you akin to banging your head against a brick wall.

But I know you'll try. And that's why I love you. And am proud to call you "friend". (((hugs)))
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I too saw both cats (on different days) and was horrified.

The black cat was flat out motionless. He said it was "asleep". This is not the way I wanted to see such a rare animal.

IMHO the alleged owner is trying to quickly cash in at $40 a pop for photos.

These cats will not stay small and cute forever.

In fact, pure speculation here but he may even be "renting" the cats by the day. Would not be astonished if the guy is not the real owner.

Anyway, it was a sad sight.

Thanks goes out to all those trying to stop this.
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Old 05-26-2011   #57 (permalink)
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I work in this plaza and never have seen any mistreatment of the animals here. They are loved and well provided with food and exercise. The young men who work with them are sensitive to their needs. I do plan asking the owner of the shop where the lion goes after he matures. I will post further information as i investigate. Thank you for posting your concerns.
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How can a lion cub be happy and well treated when he is exposed to the heat and crowds and noise of people, instead of being with him mom in his natural enviroment? PLEASE.

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I work in this plaza and never have seen any mistreatment of the animals here. They are loved and well provided with food and exercise. The young men who work with them are sensitive to their needs. I do plan asking the owner of the shop where the lion goes after he matures. I will post further information as i investigate. Thank you for posting your concerns.
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I work in this plaza and never have seen any mistreatment of the animals here. They are loved and well provided with food and exercise. The young men who work with them are sensitive to their needs. I do plan asking the owner of the shop where the lion goes after he matures. I will post further information as i investigate. Thank you for posting your concerns.
If theses individuals were sensitive to these cubs' needs they would not be using them to make money. They are not feline experts. What these idiots are doing is mistreatment of these cubs. Cats like these need special care. Using them for tourist attractions is abuse.

Too bad the people who are doing this cannot be CAUGHT and have pictures taken of THEM with tourists.Cabrones insensatos!

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