Anti-Gay Marriage Const Amendment in Minnesota - Page 2

Mnbruce · 05-23-2011

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Originally Posted by PlayaGroom

It's going to be on our ballots for 2012.

This is going to be messy. They're predicting it to be the second-most campaigned effort for the 2012 election, second only to Obama's re-election bid.

A great quote:

And a side note: this took precedence on the floor over settling the state's budget before the end of the session tonight.

This is so sad. Time for me to look for something I can do to help fight this.

PlayaGroom · 05-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Mnbruce

This is so sad. Time for me to look for something I can do to help fight this.

Step 1: Get people to try to educate themselves about politics and the upcoming politicians now rather than when we start getting bombarded with rhetoric in a year.

Step 2: Remind people to vote.

Anna Banana · 05-23-2011

yes, many people forget that voting is a right, but also a duty. Should you decide to go skiing, or fishing on election day, well then you can't complain after, can you?
Something that just happened in italy this week.

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Originally Posted by PlayaGroom

Step 1: Get people to try to educate themselves about politics and the upcoming politicians now rather than when we start getting bombarded with rhetoric in a year.

Step 2: Remind people to vote.

Mnbruce · 05-23-2011

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Originally Posted by PlayaGroom

Step 1: Get people to try to educate themselves about politics and the upcoming politicians now rather than when we start getting bombarded with rhetoric in a year.

I think the rhetoric will be starting very soon. The pro amendment forces are going to be out early and are going to be very loud. While your advice is right on, I think the anti amendment forces have their work cut out for them.

Mnbruce · 05-23-2011

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Originally Posted by Anna Tortuga

Should you decide to go skiing, or fishing on election day, well then you can't complain after, can you?

None of that stops someone from voting here. It's very easy to get a absentee ballot.

gingele · 05-23-2011

MN state Rep. John Kreisel (R), an Iraqi War veteran, gets it! "If I had a 'hell no' button, I'd push it"

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Freshman Republican Rep. John Kriesel, an Iraqi war veteran, broke with his party early this session by clearly, publicly and passionately proclaiming the amendment was wrong.

On the House floor Saturday, GOP Rep. Tim Kelly, who also opposes the amendment, pressed him for his story. Kriesel, who has become a hero among amendment opponents, told his colleagues that he lost his legs in an explosion during combat patrol. He wanted to defend his country and help the oppressed, he said.

Hours later, he returned to stand on his prosthetic legs to tell his colleagues of Andrew Wilfahrt, whose photo Kreisel distributed. Wilfahrt was a Minnesota soldier, killed in Afghanistan. He was gay.

"I cannot look at this picture ... and say 'you know what, Corporal, you were good enough to fight for this country and give your life, but you were not good enough to marry the person you love,'" Kriesel said.

"This amendment doesn't represent what I went to fight for," Kriesel said.

"Hear that out there?" he said of the cheers that arose when he and other opponents spoke. "That's the America I fought for and I'm proud of that."

He said he would have pressed a "Hell No" button if he had one.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/122401039.html?page=1&c=y

STOGEY · 05-23-2011

In Massachusetts we didn't even get a chanceto vote on the ballot regarding the issue.

ele · 05-23-2011

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Originally Posted by melliedee

The unspoken rules of appropriation stipulate that you must be a member (honorary or real) of the community whose discriminatory word you mean to invoke for irony, satire or to reclaim as a positive endearment (see bitch and the n-word for other examples).

If you are not a member, you are in danger--at best of being misunderstood--at worst, guilty of the same affront as those who use such words to be deliberately discriminatory.

My favorite example from popular culture is John Mayer's claim that he had a "ghetto pass" to use the n-word.

PlayaGroom · 05-23-2011

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Originally Posted by gingele

MN state Rep. John Kreisel (R), an Iraqi War veteran, gets it! "If I had a 'hell no' button, I'd push it"

This young man has been standing up (pun definitely intended) since he was elected into office.

He used to help produce on the local sports radio station after he returned home from service and his injury before getting into politics as well.

Thanks for posting this. I had heard he spoke, but hadn't heard the speech yet.

beachbumbam · 05-25-2011

Our governor vetoed this bill(I guess it is just a symbolic veto) as well as the ridiculous Republican budget, which decimates health care for our most vulnerable and impoverished citizens. I have to say that for once, I am really happy with the choice I made on election day by voting for Mark Dayton.

PlayaGroom · 05-26-2011

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Originally Posted by beachbumbam

Our governor vetoed this bill(I guess it is just a symbolic veto) as well as the ridiculous Republican budget, which decimates health care for our most vulnerable and impoverished citizens. I have to say that for once, I am really happy with the choice I made on election day by voting for Mark Dayton.

I'm right there with you.

A rundown of what he's done and said since the vote on the Marriage Amendment:

Dayton adds vetoes real and symbolic | StarTribune.com

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"I urge Minnesotans to reject this mean-spirited, divisive, un-Minnesotan and un-American amendment," Dayton wrote in issuing his figurative marriage veto. "Minnesotans are better than this."

STOGEY · 05-26-2011

Medicare and social security shouldn't be touched until the Senate and Congress cut their own retirement first. Then throwing all the undocumented aliens that are collecting ssi or anything else from the system out of the system.

ProfessorPibil · 05-26-2011

Once same sex marriage is federally recognized, individual state bans will go the way of the dodo very quickly. Individual states may still have bans forcing people to go and get married elsewhere, but once married, they just won't be able to avoid recognizing the marriage. The progressive but weird state of California already has something similar in place.

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STOGEY Allah Akhbar Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: salisbury, mass. Posts: 16,417	In Massachusetts we didn't even get a chanceto vote on the ballot regarding the issue. Last edited by STOGEY; 05-23-2011 at 04:18 PM..

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beachbumbam beachaholic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 308	Our governor vetoed this bill(I guess it is just a symbolic veto) as well as the ridiculous Republican budget, which decimates health care for our most vulnerable and impoverished citizens. I have to say that for once, I am really happy with the choice I made on election day by voting for Mark Dayton. Last edited by beachbumbam; 05-25-2011 at 10:01 PM..

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STOGEY Allah Akhbar Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: salisbury, mass. Posts: 16,417	Medicare and social security shouldn't be touched until the Senate and Congress cut their own retirement first. Then throwing all the undocumented aliens that are collecting ssi or anything else from the system out of the system.

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ProfessorPibil añejo Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,529	Once same sex marriage is federally recognized, individual state bans will go the way of the dodo very quickly. Individual states may still have bans forcing people to go and get married elsewhere, but once married, they just won't be able to avoid recognizing the marriage. The progressive but weird state of California already has something similar in place.

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