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Old 09-17-2011   #31 (permalink)
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Not much more than a temporary solution...

True, but what a nice stop-gap measure it could turn out to be. Drill, pump, pipe and refine all those projected numbers over a 10 year span and you've added 10% to our total supply for each of those ten years. Ten years of reduced oil and gas prices passed on to the American consumer as we continue to ramp up efforts to develop viable technology to replace internal combustion and gas fired machines in the long term.

It's clear we are on limited time as a fossil fuel based society. I just don't see the problem in making the most of what time we do have left by reducing domestic oil costs and freeing up capitol that could be invested now toward technologies of the future.



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but I am sure the US WILL be drilling in ANWAR before too long. Inescapable.
We can only hope it will be sooner rather than later.
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Old 09-17-2011   #32 (permalink)
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the "not in my backyard" syndrome.
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Sorry, I guess I need to be more clear.

Wondering what the mindset is behind the protests. In regards to the question- get oil from a friendly neighbour?? OR, end up killing soldiers in a stupid war to secure a source for oil much farther away?

Seems like an easy choice. The amount of oil is the same, in the end.

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I don't have a problem with exploiting our natural resources as long as we do it safely. I don't have a problem with giving a project enough study time to make sure it's going to be ok before we jump into it. Safe water is more important than cheap oil in my opinion. I do have a problem with science that is as politicized as our elections....just sayin....

My love of the outdoors and a clean environment is oftentimes at odds with the rest of my conservative philosophy...
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Old 12-18-2011   #36 (permalink)
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Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH) insists that the GOP-led House will fight for the cash-rich oil industry at the expense of the middle-class payroll tax cut.

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However, studies conducted independently of TransCanada find much smaller jobs numbers, far from “tens of thousands.” An oil contractor hired by the State Department reported it would create between 5,000 and 6,000 temporary jobs, while an independent study by Cornell University found it would create only 500 to 1,400 temporary jobs. Once the costs of the increased pollution and risk of oil spills is factored in, Cornell found, the jobs impact is likely to be negative.
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I don't have a problem with exploiting our natural resources as long as we do it safely. I don't have a problem with giving a project enough study time to make sure it's going to be ok before we jump into it. Safe water is more important than cheap oil in my opinion. I do have a problem with science that is as politicized as our elections....just sayin....

My love of the outdoors and a clean environment is oftentimes at odds with the rest of my conservative philosophy...
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Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH) insists that the GOP-led House will fight for the cash-rich oil industry at the expense of the middle-class payroll tax cut.

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However, studies conducted independently of TransCanada find much smaller jobs numbers, far from “tens of thousands.” An oil contractor hired by the State Department reported it would create between 5,000 and 6,000 temporary jobs, while an independent study by Cornell University found it would create only 500 to 1,400 temporary jobs. Once the costs of the increased pollution and risk of oil spills is factored in, Cornell found, the jobs impact is likely to be negative.
Just to clarify.....that doesn't mean I'm against the pipeline....it just means I don't think we need to jump into the project without first giving it a fair and unbiased assessment.....if that's even possible in this political climate..

Furthermore, I do not trust the EPA now that Obama is personally running it...
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The left is going to be against anything that has to do with producing energy.. They won't be happy as long as humans roam the earth..
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The left is going to be against anything that has to do with producing energy.. They won't be happy as long as humans roam the earth..
That is so clearly a falsehood....
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That is so clearly a falsehood....

well, ron, you know what they say: if his lips are moving....
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Ok, what does gay rights and the oil pipeline have in common?
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Seems like you are giving them more than they are due, then. Maybe a Canadian pride thing.

Maybe they are trying to save Canada .

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Where the Real Jobs Are

American voters are smart enough to see through the ridiculous pipeline gambit. And they will surely listen if Mr. Obama makes a compelling argument for both protecting the environment and investing in clean energy industries that will create lasting jobs.
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Where the Real Jobs Are

American voters are smart enough to see through the ridiculous pipeline gambit. And they will surely listen if Mr. Obama makes a compelling argument for both protecting the environment and investing in clean energy industries that will create lasting jobs.

Is the pipeline gambit any more ridiculous than the "$5 trillion global clean technology market (and the jobs that go with it)" claim made in the article? What period of time are they talking about, 50 years; what are they including in their total value estimate? Let me guess, these are some of the same people that tried telling you that a $1.35 trillion tax cut equates to $3.2 trillion in lost revenue when carrying costs are included. Is it any wonder we are where we are now fiscally with people such as these at the helm?
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American voters are smart enough to see through the ridiculous pipeline gambit. And they will surely listen if Mr. Obama makes a compelling argument for both protecting the environment and investing in clean energy industries that will create lasting jobs.
Mr. Barack Obama will ok the pipeline, crying, kicking & screaming about being forced by the conservatives to do it.
Fact of the matter is if he doesn't, the millions of $$ from the teamsters union dries up & theres no way he will ever be re-elected without lots of cash from the various unions to fill the coffers.
How many times does he need to lie to the libs before they get it.
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