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Old 10-24-2011   #46 (permalink)
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Can't really do the latter. You mean north/south, perhaps?

Usually Cozumel acts as a bit of a buffer for Playa (thanks, Cozumeleños!), as for example it did with Wilma. If that helps.
Well, I know storm surges cause the worst damage to property and loss of life in any hurricanes.

I was just trying to ascertain what scenario would cause a greater storm surge depending on how the hurricane makes landfall in respects to PDC?
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Steve, I don't really care about who's officially classifying the exact strength and determining what is and what isn't to be called "major". I guess I should have clarified - I wasn't talking in an official sense of the word, I more implying that if a CAT 2 storm was headed my way, I would consider it to be a major event.
That's fine! By the same token, I was just clarifying, since I had used major/non-major, that I was using them in the standard definition sense of 3-5 and 1-2, respectively.

Interesting image of the passing of Ivan through the channel here. Pretty sure it was a cat 4. We had 2 days of terrible weather and got a whole lot more beach, but that was about it. I'm sure no evacuation order was every issued for the beach, and we had several guests continue their stays with us (though one couple I remember went off to another property for the key night and then came back).

Just saying (kind of like the weather afterwards point) that the category itself may not mean major damage or danger, even if close.

Hopefully we will not have to even approach testing that theory with Rina, though!
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Well, I know storm surges cause the worst damage to property and loss of life in any hurricanes.

I was just trying to ascertain what scenario would cause a greater storm surge depending on how the hurricane makes landfall in respects to PDC?
Well again storm surge is thankfully not such of a major issue for Playenses, in general, as I was noting back in post 3082. But I don't know whether it's somewhat worse from landfall farther south or whatever. Sorry.
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You said in your earlier post that it would hit the Yucatan tomorrow night. Nowhere has it said that.
I will quote from my article which I will bring to Don Sirloin tonight. "the National Hurricane Center now predicts Rina will be a major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) by late Tuesday as it approaches the Yucatan peninsula". I guess that it is ones interpretation of "as it approaches" .

I sure hope that it doesn't come at all, but if it does, the later the better cause I am out of here Wednesday morning. And with that said, all but one set of my hurricane shutters are closed up. Batten the hatches.
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still, there are always unknowns so, just have to wait it out.
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Still, there are always unknowns so, just have to wait it out.
So if I get out of Dodge Wednesday morning............I am going to wait it out in south Florida .
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What happens during hurricanes here in Playa? I've been here for almost a year and half and never went through a hurricane. What are the proceeders like, do they have evacuations? What are warning signs of them? Any tips would be helpful.

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Seems to me two (blue and white) would have pretty direct effects on the Yucatan and four (yellow, black, purple and maybe red may not have such direct effects.

What do you see?

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U.S. Consulate Merida, Mexico

Consular Section
Emergency Message for U.S. citizens

Subject: Hurricane Rina
Dear U.S. citizens:

This Emergency Message is to inform U.S. citizens that the National Hurricane Center (NHC) has issued a warning for Hurricane Rina, which is currently located north of Honduras and east of Belize. The U.S. National Weather Service predicts that Rina is strengthening as it approaches the coast of Belize and the Yucatan Peninsula. It is currently predicted to approach the coast of Quintana Roo (between Cancun, Playa del Carmen, and/or Chetumal) late this week or this weekend at major hurricane strength. Please visit the National Hurricane Center’s website to follow the storm’s path.

In addition to danger from wind, life threatening flash floods and mudslides are possible. Coastal areas are especially vulnerable to these hazards. U.S. citizens in coastal areas may be impacted by the storm and are strongly encouraged to monitor media reports, and the Mexican Government’s Proteccion Civil (Civil Protection) website, http://www.proteccioncivil.gob.mx for updated information about the storm and to follow official instructions. The website of the Proteccion Civil of the State of Quintana Roo can be monitored at www.proteccioncivil.qroo.gob.mx. U.S. citizens are urged to stay clear of beaches as rough seas associated with storm conditions create severe hazards. U.S. citizens should stay in contact with relatives and friends in the U.S. to apprise them of their whereabouts, both before and after the storm. Visitors should be familiar with their hotel or cruise ship evacuation plans. If you must travel during this time please follow normal heavy rain precautions. U.S. citizens should carry their travel documents (i.e. U.S. Passport, Birth Certificate, picture ID’s, etc.) with them at all times or secure them by placing them in a safe waterproof location.

For the latest security information, Americans traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department's Internet web site at http://travel.state.gov where the current Worldwide Caution Public Announcement, Travel Warnings, and Public Announcements can be found. Up to date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the United States, or, for callers outside the United States and Canada, a regular toll line at 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). American citizens traveling or residing overseas are encouraged to register with the appropriate U.S. Embassy or Consulate.

Additional information on hurricanes and storm preparedness may be found in the “Hurricane Season-Know Before You Go” pamphlet at Hurricane Season - Know Before You Go and on the “Natural Disasters” page of the Bureau of Consular Affairs’ website at: General Information - Natural Disasters.

Updated information on travel in Mexico may be obtained from the Department of State by calling 1-888-407-4747 within the United States and Canada, or from overseas, 1-202-501-4444. These numbers are available from 8:00 am to 8:00 p.m., Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

The U.S. Consulate in Merida, Yucatan, Mexico, has responsibility for the Mexican States of Quintana Roo, Yucatan, and Campeche. The Consulate remains open for business. The Consulate can be reached during its regular business hours (M-F, 7:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.) by telephone at 999-942-5700; by fax at 999-942-5777; and by email at meridacons@state.gov. After hours, for emergencies involving U.S. citizens in the Mexican states of Yucatan, Quintana Roo, and Campeche, call the Consulate’s main number and follow instructions to be connected to the Merida duty officer.

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CONSULATE MERIDA (Calle 60 No. 338-K x 29 y 31, Colonia Alcala Martin, Merida, Yucatan, Mexico)
Main switchboard dialing from the US: 011-52-999-942-5700
Main switchboard dialing from outside Merida but within Mexico: 01-999-942-5700

CONSULAR AGENCY CANCUN (Blvd. Kukulkan Km 13, Torre La Europea, Despacho 301 ZH, Cancun, Quintana Roo, Mexico 77500)
Office dialing from the US: 011-52-998-883-0272
Office dialing from outside Cancun but within Mexico: 01-998-883-0272

CONSULAR AGENCY COZUMEL (Plaza Villa Mar en el Centro, Plaza Principal, (Parque Juárez between Melgar and 5th Avenue) 2nd floor, locales #8 and 9, Cozumel, Quintana Roo, Mexico)
Office dialing from the US: 011-52-987-872-4574
Office dialing from outside Cozumel but within Mexico: 01-987-872-4574

CONSULAR AGENCY PLAYA DEL CARMEN ("The Palapa," Calle 1 Sur, between Avenida 15 and Avenida 20, Playa Del Carmen, Quintana Roo, Mexico)
Office dialing from the US: 011-52-984-873-0303
Office dialing from outside Playa Del Carmen but within Mexico: 01-984-873-0303



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What happens during hurricanes here in Playa? I've been here for almost a year and half and never went through a hurricane. What are the proceeders like, do they have evacuations? What are warning signs of them? Any tips would be helpful.

Gracias.
The authorities know their stuff and are very organized. Evacuation orders MAY be issued for the beach and other at-risk areas, and if it comes to that, national guard types will make sure people comply. People at the bigger properties on the beach would thenbe moved to structures on their properties already identified as appropriate for protection from cyclones. Others at smaller properties on the beach would be removed to partner properties off the beach and in safer places.

Now all that has happened exactly twice in our 9+ years of operation: with Emily and Wilma, both in 2005. Just to give you an idea. I wouldn't worry about evacuation just yet, but that will give you an something to go on, perhaps.
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What happens during hurricanes here in Playa? I've been here for almost a year and half and never went through a hurricane. What are the proceeders like, do they have evacuations? What are warning signs of them? Any tips would be helpful.

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Here is the alert system that the state of Quintana Roo uses

ALERTA AZUL
PELIGRO MINIMO
ACERCAMIENTO-AVISO

Blue alert, minimum risk approach Inform
At more than 72 hours
Tropical disturbance lacated in the atlantic ocean
Weather bulletins will be issued every 24 hours and when its located in the Caribbean sea it will be issued every 12 hours This information will be issued by the Civil Protection authorities (news paper and radio, facebook, twitter official pages).
ALERTA VERDE
PELIGRO BAJO
ACERCAMIENTO-PREVENCIÓN

Green alert low risk approach, prevention
Disturbance from 72 - 48 hours
Bulletins issued every 12 hours.
ALERTA AMARILLA
PELIGRO MODERADO
ACERCAMIENTO-PREPARACIÓN

Perturbación de 48 - 36 horas
Yellow alert , moderate danger preparation approach
Bulletins issued every 6 hours.
ALERTA NARANJA
PELIGRO ALTO
ACERCAMIENTO

Orange alert High Risk Approach
Disturbance in 36 - 12 horas
At this stage the Specialized Operative Committees are activated in case of Hurricane Information will be provided every 6 hours when it is 24 hours away every 3 hours by all media.
ALERTA ROJA
PELIGRO MÁXIMO
ACERCAMIENTO- AFECTACIÓN

Red alert
It is established when the winds are 34 nudos or 63 km) of a tropical cyclone are affecting the area (landfall) or else can be affecting an area in within 18 hours according to the intensity of the tropical storm.
Bulletins issued every 3 hours until the system has travelled through the Yucatan peninsula.
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Thanks for the weather updates everyone. I'm booked for an ATL-CUN flight Saturday morning. I'll keep watching but if that flight takes off I will be on it. I'd prefer it not rain every day but if it does it does. I'm pretty sure I can find tequila, shelter, and fellowship no matter the weather.
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Sorry, think that was my bad saying every 3 hours NHC updates. Delmy says she thinks it's every 3 hours really during a storm, but otherwise, every 6 hours. Which would fit since it's already 9 pm Eastern, 4 hours after the last update, and still nothing new.

OTOH, it is nice to have had such little hurricane-type activity over the past few years that it is possible to forget such fine points.
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Thanks for the weather updates everyone. I'm booked for an ATL-CUN flight Saturday morning. I'll keep watching but if that flight takes off I will be on it. I'd prefer it not rain every day but if it does it does. I'm pretty sure I can find tequila, shelter, and fellowship no matter the weather.
Charlie, if you make it keep me posted so I know what to expect on Monday.
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Charlie, if you make it keep me posted so I know what to expect on Monday.
Rain or shine I'll be there by then. Expect to stay out past your bedtime.
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