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Old 02-15-2012   #16 (permalink)
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You can't just order a new car permit. You only get the one when you drive across the border, and then you have to either return the car within the time limit or else update your Visa status to an FM3 or FM2 rentista. A car permit and an FMM go together only for the first 6 months.
This is false, I had my original import sticker shipped to me in Canada, one week before leaving for Mexico. It came via DHL and only took 2-3 days once I ordered it online.

So basically, this permit was issued even before I had my visa, since I only got my visa when I crossed the Mexican Border. They do warn you that your permit is invalid if you don't get a visa and is non refundable. This is how I know that there wasn't any possible way that the permit was linked to my visa.
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The rules have recently changed, the reason you don't need to renew your sticker is that an imported car is now tied to your immigration status.
Actually, that's not a new rule change.
We just didn't know the rules.
And at the Belize border, they don't know the rules either.
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This is false, I had my original import sticker shipped to me in Canada, one week before leaving for Mexico. It came via DHL and only took 2-3 days once I ordered it online.

So basically, this permit was issued even before I had my visa, since I only got my visa when I crossed the Mexican Border. They do warn you that your permit is invalid if you don't get a visa and is non refundable. This is how I know that there wasn't any possible way that the permit was linked to my visa.
Yes, I know of people that got the sticker before crossing the border. However, I don't think you can just order a new one.
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The day you returned to the US, your permit expired. The FMM may have been issued for 180 days, but once you leave, it's cancelled.
So, upon returning to Mexico, your temporary permit was technically invalid.

And, in a round about way, the permit is tied to your immigration status.
With an FM2 (rentista only) and FM3 in good standing, the expired temporary permit is valid.
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Ain't recent information great!
It'll just change!

And then we'll have to keep going back to those AWFUL crowded hot meetings.
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This is false, I had my original import sticker shipped to me in Canada, one week before leaving for Mexico. It came via DHL and only took 2-3 days once I ordered it online.

So basically, this permit was issued even before I had my visa, since I only got my visa when I crossed the Mexican Border. They do warn you that your permit is invalid if you don't get a visa and is non refundable. This is how I know that there wasn't any possible way that the permit was linked to my visa.
Joe, the rules have changed
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The rules have recently changed, the reason you don't need to renew your sticker is that an imported car is now tied to your immigration status. If you got 180 days, then that is it, or at least that is what was explained to us last week.
How can that be, right now my car isn't tied to anything. Before crossing into Belize I cancelled my permit. When I came back in to Mexico, I applied for a new visa, which I got.

So now I've got a new 180 days visa and my car isn't linked to my immigration status in anyway. When issuing the new visa, they never asked my if I had a car so they wouldn't know.

I just remembered I don't have the sticker anymore, but I do have the original certificate that came with the sticker.
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This is false, I had my original import sticker shipped to me in Canada, one week before leaving for Mexico. It came via DHL and only took 2-3 days once I ordered it online.

So basically, this permit was issued even before I had my visa, since I only got my visa when I crossed the Mexican Border. They do warn you that your permit is invalid if you don't get a visa and is non refundable. This is how I know that there wasn't any possible way that the permit was linked to my visa.
First one can be ordered online. A second one....not so easy.
If you try to order another on online you may want to change the VIN on the application since they have that number on record.
And trust me, they have good enough computer records to cross reference that number back to you.
What is your immigration status?
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Joe, the rules have changed
Well if changed, you can still order a temp car import permit online as of right now.

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How can that be, right now my car isn't tied to anything. Before crossing into Belize I cancelled my permit. When I came back in to Mexico, I applied for a new visa, which I got.

So now I've got a new 180 days visa and my car isn't linked to my immigration status in anyway. When issuing the new visa, they never asked my if I had a car so they wouldn't know.

I just remembered I don't have the sticker anymore, but I do have the original certificate that came with the sticker.
You have no sticker.
Your original certificate has expired.
You are illegal.
Been there.
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First one can be ordered online. A second one....not so easy.
If you try to order another on online you may want to change the VIN on the application since they have that number on record.
And trust me, they have good enough computer records to cross reference that number back to you.
What is your immigration status?
Tourist, but remember my permit is currently cancelled.
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First one can be ordered online. A second one....not so easy.
If you try to order another on online you may want to change the VIN on the application since they have that number on record.
And trust me, they have good enough computer records to cross reference that number back to you.
What is your immigration status?
As far as their system goes, my cars permit as been cancelled so my car should be showing as being out of the country.

I'll apply for a new sticker online and get it shipped to my hotel in D.C.
I'll fly back to Mexico, get a new visa when I enter and apply the new sticker to my windshield.

Child's play. Anyway that's the way I see it.
Again doing it this way, my immigration status won't be linked to the permit since I'm actually receiving the permit before getting the visa.
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As far as their system goes, my cars permit as been cancelled so my car should be showing as being out of the country.

I'll apply for a new sticker online and get it shipped to my hotel in D.C.
I'll fly back to Mexico, get a new visa when I enter and apply the new sticker to my windshield.

Child's play. Anyway that's the way I see it.
Again doing it this way, my immigration status won't be linked to the permit since I'm actually receiving the permit before getting the visa.
I'm curious to know how that will work. We will be waiting to hear from you.
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Sorry. That is false information. Is was disproved a couple of years ago.
Customs at the Belize border are wrong.
It has been checked and double checked by Samantha Mason (US Consular) and it is false.
The Mexican Consulate is also wrong. On their website they also have this information. It is a bit weird to have the Mexican Consulate giving out the wrong information even in writing, and the American Consulate giving out the correct information. We even asked the Hacienda, again the wrong info no import permit required.

We also found it odd that you can turn in your permit and get a refund while you are in Quintana Roo. And have the people giving you the refund tell you, you don't need an import permit in Quintana Roo. However, with enough officials not knowing the right info, perhaps the wrong info is effectively the law.

But you've heard this from me so many times.........

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I'll fly back to Mexico, get a new visa when I enter and apply the new sticker to my windshield.
And if you go back to the states during that 180 days - your permit expires.
May I suggest an FM3?
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