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Old 02-15-2012   #31 (permalink)
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The Mexican Consulate is also wrong. On their website they also have this information. It is a bit weird to have the Mexican Consulate giving out the wrong information even in writing, and the American Consulate giving out the correct information. We even asked the Hacienda, again the wrong info no import permit required.
If the Mexican Consulate has certain information on their website, couldn't a driver print it out, keep it in the car, and use it to get out of "trouble," even if the information is technically wrong? How is the Customs official or Federale going to know the difference?
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I'm curious to know how that will work. We will be waiting to hear from you.
I'll be back on March 4th, meanwhile I hope I won't to get pulled over by any federales. I can just see this being a huge headache.

But I need to do a few trips to Cancun & airport meanwhile

Btw what overcrowded meeting are you guys talking about?
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I'll be back on March 4th, meanwhile I hope I won't to get pulled over by any federales. I can just see this being a huge headache.

But I need to do a few trips to Cancun & airport meanwhile

Btw what overcrowded meeting are you guys talking about?
There was a meeting in Puerto Aventuras about vehicle permits, immigration status, customs, etc. I posted about it here awhile ago, right after I heard about it. It was PACKED, obviously because there are a lot of people with the same problems/questions as we have.
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The Mexican Consulate is also wrong. On their website they also have this information. It is a bit weird to have the Mexican Consulate giving out the wrong information even in writing, and the American Consulate giving out the correct information. We even asked the Hacienda, again the wrong info no import permit required.
Yes, they are wrong.
I sent the link to Samantha that stated that Qroo is a free zone. She passed it on to the powers-to-be in DF. They admitted that the info is wrong and will change the info.
This was in 2009
This is a partial response from the Gob...

"Mexican customs has indicated that the free zone is at north US/Mexican border and at south is only Guatemala/Chiapas (Tapachula). Quintana Roo is not considered “free zone”. I have asked something official to send you. As soon as they send the official information, I will send it to you. In addition, Christine (my supervisor) has instructed me to send a dip note to SRE informing them the confusing information on the consulates’ webpage and request to either confirm or remove it from their sites."
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The Mexican Consulate is also wrong. On their website they also have this information. It is a bit weird to have the Mexican Consulate giving out the wrong information even in writing, and the American Consulate giving out the correct information. We even asked the Hacienda, again the wrong info no import permit required.
Were you at the meeting? It was specifically designed to address the NEW rules that are in place as of right now. The lawyer from DF made the presentation, she was not the Mexican consular, the US consular only did the translation.
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I'll be back on March 4th, meanwhile I hope I won't to get pulled over by any federales. I can just see this being a huge headache.

But I need to do a few trips to Cancun & airport meanwhile

Btw what overcrowded meeting are you guys talking about?
The van (with Pennsylvania plates) arrived at the airport without a permit sticker.
The van is now impounded.
14,000 peso fine and that does not get the van back.
I'm thinking that "safe passage" can be applied for and the van could be taken back to the US within five days.
That ain't gonna happen.
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More than 120 people jammed the Colonos meeting room Tuesday for advice on new rules governing the temporary (and permanent) importation and use of foreign-plated cars.
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And if you go back to the states during that 180 days - your permit expires.
May I suggest an FM3?
How would it expire if there is no way for them to cross reference my permit to my immigration status "FMM visa"?

I mean that was a big deal for me when I first applied for my original permit, but I heard so many different contradicting stories that I just decided that I would deal with it once I get to Mexico.

Now when I got my permit delivered to me in Canada prior to having a FMM visa, I just knew there wasn't anyway for them to cross reference my permit to a visa. So I just went with the expiry date on my permit, cancelled it and got a $400 deposit refund that I actually never paid to start with. lol
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How would it expire if there is no way for them to cross reference my permit to my immigration status "FMM visa"?

I mean that was a big deal for me when I first applied for my original permit, but I heard so many different contradicting stories that I just decided that I would deal with it once I get to Mexico.

Now when I got my permit delivered to me in Canada prior to having a FMM visa, I just knew there wasn't anyway for them to cross reference my permit to a visa. So I just went with the expiry date on my permit, cancelled it and got a $400 deposit refund that I actually never paid to start with. lol
There is a date on the permit certificate.
There is a date on the FMM
They don't match? Rut roh!!
Hey, I gambled for four years.
I got tired of always looking in my real view mirror.
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Joe, I know it doesn't seem to make any sense. Basically, this is what we were told: If you get pulled over and questioned about an expired vehicle permit, you had better pull out an FM3 or an FM2 rentista. The only time you can pull out an FMM is if that vehicle permit still has time left on it.
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Joe, I know it doesn't seem to make any sense. Basically, this is what we were told: If you get pulled over and questioned about an expired vehicle permit, you had better pull out an FM3 or an FM2 rentista. The only time you can pull out an FMM is if that vehicle permit still has time left on it.
Okay, well I won't take any chances and order a new one and get it delivered in DC. $50 for 6 months isn't worth the possible hassle with the Federales.
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There is a date on the permit certificate.
There is a date on the FMM
They don't match? Rut roh!!
Hey, I gambled for four years.
I got tired of always looking in my real view mirror.
So Babaloo, are you telling me that when I go driving somewhere that I need to carry my tourist visa with me???

I keep my FMM visa safe at home at all times. So if my visa is at home how would they tell the dates don't correspond?

They certainly didn't correspond when I exited Mexico and cancelled my permit! No one realized anything or simply didn't care.

So do I really need to carry my FMM visa with me all the time?
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So Babaloo, are you telling me that when I go driving somewhere that I need to carry my tourist visa with me???

I keep my FMM visa safe at home at all times. So if my visa is at home how would they tell the dates don't correspond?

They certainly didn't correspond when I exited Mexico and cancelled my permit! No one realized anything or simply didn't care.

So do I really need to carry my FMM visa with me all the time?
Make a copy
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playajoe, don't fight it: you need a sticker

my advice, do your best to not go to the airport without one
if you do go there, you run a pretty high risk of losing your car


no matter what anyone told you


eta/ and if they stop you and you show copies, they will laugh at you
when you are driving, have real paper
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playajoe, don't fight it: you need a sticker

my advice, do your best to not go to the airport without one
if you do go there, you run a pretty high risk of losing your car


no matter what anyone told you


eta/ and if they stop you and you show copies, they will laugh at you
when you are driving, have real paper
oh, I'm not fighting it. I will get a permit in a few weeks, I will take your suggestion and avoid the airport until then. Just trying to figure out the right way of doing things.
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