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Old 02-15-2012   #1 (permalink)
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Temp car import permit - Did you know?

Hey did you know that within the state of Quintana Roo, you don't need a temp. import car permit!

I was at the Belize border two weekends ago to cancel my existing permit and noticed that Banjercito was closing at 3:00pm. Since I knew I would not make it back from the free zone by 3pm, I asked the clerk if she could renew my permit right on the spot without me exiting Mexico. She asked me if I was planning on driving out of the state. I answered no. So she said that I didn't need to renew my permit then.

On the way back into Mexico, I got the red light at customs. The first question from the customs dude was where's your temp. import permit sticker. I told him that the lady at Banjercito told me that I didn't need one if I wasn't driving out of Quintana Roo, he said okay and let me by.

I was always under the impression that the $400 deposit was just a authorization taken on the credit card because they had never billed it to my card. To my surprise a few days later I received a $400 credit on my credit card. I went back to Aug. statement and they really didn't charge me the $400 deposit to start with. Sweet!

For those who might me skeptic about not needing the sticker: http://consejo.bz/belize/drivingout.html


BTW here are the Banjercito hours in Chetumal:
8:30-17:00 Mon-Friday
8:30-15:00 Sun, Sat, Holidays
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I hope you kept your sticker. Oh boy do I hope you didn't let them take your sticker!!!
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I hope you kept your sticker. Oh boy do I hope you didn't let them take your sticker!!!
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Sorry. That is false information. Is was disproved a couple of years ago.
Customs at the Belize border are wrong.
It has been checked and double checked by Samantha Mason (US Consular) and it is false.
QRoo is not a free zone.
You must have a permit and sticker
If one is here on an FMM, the sticker is only valid as long as the FMM is valid (no more than 180 days)
If one is here on an FM2/3, the sticker (even expired) is valid as long as the immigration status is kept current.
IF the immigration status lapses, there are no freebies. You can apply for a "safe passage" document and you have 5 days to remove your vehicle from Mexico.
Also learned that a foreign plated vehicle cannot be sold, donated or given away.
I'm glad I could clear this up.
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Hey did you know that within the state of Quintana Roo, you don't need a temp. import car permit!

I was at the Belize border two weekends ago to cancel my existing permit and noticed that Banjercito was closing at 3:00pm. Since I knew I would not make it back from the free zone by 3pm, I asked the clerk if she could renew my permit right on the spot without me exiting Mexico. She asked me if I was planning on driving out of the state. I answered no. So she said that I didn't need to renew my permit then.

On the way back into Mexico, I got the red light at customs. The first question from the customs dude was where's your temp. import permit sticker. I told him that the lady at Banjercito told me that I didn't need one if I wasn't driving out of Quintana Roo, he said okay and let me by.

I was always under the impression that the $400 deposit was just a authorization taken on the credit card because they had never billed it to my card. To my surprise a few days later I received a $400 credit on my credit card. I went back to Aug. statement and they really didn't charge me the $400 deposit to start with. Sweet!

For those who might me skeptic about not needing the sticker: Driving From Belize into Mexico


BTW here are the Banjercito hours in Chetumal:
8:30-17:00 Mon-Friday
8:30-15:00 Sun, Sat, Holidays
Just don't ever let your immigration status expire from the original day of your entry, not even bu one day. If so, your car is illegal no matter what and you have to drive it out of the country
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I hope you kept your sticker. Oh boy do I hope you didn't let them take your sticker!!!
Nope the clerk removed the sticker when she cancelled it.
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A friend of mine was driving a US plated vehicle without a sticker and customs took it from him. They aren't giving it back, either. And they told him that he has to pay a fine or go to jail.
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Nope the clerk removed the sticker when she cancelled it.
Hmmmm. You have to have a sticker. Perhaps go back to the border and attempt to get a new one.
It's true, you vehicle can be impounded without the proper permit.
On a more positive note (if there is one), the local municipal police have no jurisdiction over customs issues. They may say they do, but they don't.
The Federales do.
Oh. Avoid the airport.
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Just don't ever let your immigration status expire from the original day of your entry, not even bu one day. If so, your car is illegal no matter what and you have to drive it out of the country
I don't get it. The temp import permit isn't linked to the visa. I came in to Mexico in Aug. 2011, since then I've left and entered the country several times. Leaving the car in Mexico. When I inquired about doing this at Barjencito they said that's a no-no that I could not leave the country without the car?

Well I did it anyway just because to me this didn't make any sense because I could see that there wasn't any link between my original visa and the temp. car import permit. Has you can see Barjencito was wrong and it can be done.

So my original visa is long gone, now I got a new 180 day visa from the border when I cancelled my permit.

If I need to get a new temp car permit, I'll just order it over the web and get it shipped to one of my travels destinations in the USA or Canada.
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A friend of mine was driving a US plated vehicle without a sticker and customs took it from him. They aren't giving it back, either. And they told him that he has to pay a fine or go to jail.
This was within Quintana Roo?
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You can't just order a new car permit. You only get the one when you drive across the border, and then you have to either return the car within the time limit or else update your Visa status to an FM3 or FM2 rentista. A car permit and an FMM go together only for the first 6 months.

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I don't get it. The temp import permit isn't linked to the visa. I came in to Mexico in Aug. 2011, since then I've left and entered the country several times. Leaving the car in Mexico. When I inquired about doing this at Barjencito they said that's a no-no that I could not leave the country without the car?

Well I did it anyway just because to me this didn't make any sense because I could see that there wasn't any link between my original visa and the temp. car import permit. Has you can see Barjencito was wrong and it can be done.

So my original visa is long gone, now I got a new 180 day visa from the border when I cancelled my permit.

If I need to get a new temp car permit, I'll just order it over the web and get it shipped to one of my travels destinations in the USA or Canada.
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This was within Quintana Roo?
Yes, at the Cancun airport.
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Hmmmm. You have to have a sticker. Perhaps go back to the border and attempt to get a new one.
It's true, you vehicle can be impounded without the proper permit.
On a more positive note (if there is one), the local municipal police have no jurisdiction over customs issues. They may say they do, but they don't.
The Federales do.
Oh. Avoid the airport.
Well I took the agents name & employee number in case anything happens.
However I am heading to Washington, DC in a few weeks so maybe I'll just order one via the web and get it shipped to my hotel to avoid any possible trouble.

That being said I've seen numerous U.S. plated cars since I'm here without the temp. import sticker and was wondering how they had pulled that one off.
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I don't get it. The temp import permit isn't linked to the visa. I came in to Mexico in Aug. 2011, since then I've left and entered the country several times. Leaving the car in Mexico. When I inquired about doing this at Barjencito they said that's a no-no that I could not leave the country without the car?

Well I did it anyway just because to me this didn't make any sense because I could see that there wasn't any link between my original visa and the temp. car import permit. Has you can see Barjencito was wrong and it can be done.

So my original visa is long gone, now I got a new 180 day visa from the border when I cancelled my permit.

If I need to get a new temp car permit, I'll just order it over the web and get it shipped to one of my travels destinations in the USA or Canada.
The rules have recently changed, the reason you don't need to renew your sticker is that an imported car is now tied to your immigration status. If you got 180 days, then that is it, or at least that is what was explained to us last week.


But you do need the original sticker. There was just a large meeting in puerto last week with US consular Sam Mason and a lawyer from DF who went through all the recent changes in a power point presentation.

I am sure Al will weigh in on this soon, he retains more of the specifics that I do.
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I don't get it. The temp import permit isn't linked to the visa. I came in to Mexico in Aug. 2011, since then I've left and entered the country several times. Leaving the car in Mexico. When I inquired about doing this at Barjencito they said that's a no-no that I could not leave the country without the car?
The day you returned to the US, your permit expired. The FMM may have been issued for 180 days, but once you leave, it's cancelled.
So, upon returning to Mexico, your temporary permit was technically invalid.

And, in a round about way, the permit is tied to your immigration status.
With an FM2 (rentista only) and FM3 in good standing, the expired temporary permit is valid.
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