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Old 11-09-2012   #1 (permalink)
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Post-election Political Thread

Fiscal cliff, tax changes, Obamacare implementaton, GOP review of what went wrong for them in the election, immigration reform, new cabinet members, Mitch "Just Say No" McConnell, John "can we all get along" Boenher, Nancy Pelosi, Harry "squeaky" Reid.

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Fresh..I like it! A new dawn.

What do you think about accepting tax reform that results in revenue increases from higher income folks as opposed to actually raising the rates of higher income folks....are you willing to compromise to that?
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Fresh..I like it! A new dawn.

What do you think about accepting tax reform that results in revenue increases from higher income folks as opposed to actually raising the rates of higher income folks....are you willing to compromise to that?
I want to see specific proposals - but Romney's campaign notion of limiting the size of the deduction bucket might have promise
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Fiscal responsibility and getting our military the hell out of the rest of the worlds business...that would be a nice start.
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I agree with kirby on this....

Here is our grateful President addressing his key staff post-election..later, he actually went to all 700 of his key staffers and hugged and thanked each one...nice.....

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Fiscal responsibility and getting our military the hell out of the rest of the worlds business...that would be a nice start.
I doubt too many would disagree with you. The devil is in the details but its a good basis for all countries.
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Fiscal responsibility and getting our military the hell out of the rest of the worlds business...that would be a nice start.
Hey, you've got my vote!
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I am looking forward to watching some of the new Dem senators

Elizabeth Warren: What kind of senator will she be?

Washington Blade: Baldwin makes history with Senate victory in Wis.

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I am interested in seeing if the Republican party goes more moderate based upon what they learned in the election, despite the flip-flopping moderate Romney's performance, or more radical right wing ala the tea party thinking that if they were only more radically right they would have won.

I am also interested to see if foolish Democrats get too big-headed over our Presidential victory and hold up necessary compromise necessary to avoid the fiscal cliff.

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Fresh..I like it! A new dawn.

What do you think about accepting tax reform that results in revenue increases from higher income folks as opposed to actually raising the rates of higher income folks....are you willing to compromise to that?
What difference does it make?
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What difference does it make?
To me, revenue is revenue...others are concerned that there is not enough revenue in the tax loopholes....others are concerned that things like mortgage interest deductions might be considered high income tax reform....and others worry that if you just generally lower what is deductible at higher income levels, that there might be negative impact like the rich stopping the making of formerly tax deductible contributions....

We will hear it all I am sure.

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I heard Obama recently set up the prospect of $2.5 of spending cuts for every dollar of revenue increase...do you think the Democrats in Congress will generally agree with that?
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I am interested in seeing if the Republican party goes more moderate based upon what they learned in the election, despite the flip-flopping moderate Romney's performance, or more radical right wing ala the tea party thinking that if they were only more radically right they would have won.

I am also interested to see if foolish Democrats get too big-headed over our Presidential victory and hold up necessary compromise necessary to avoid the fiscal cliff.
Very fair and interesting point. The answer to both questions is yes. GOP will move more to the center, it is a game of momentum and what picks up votes. If you recall in 2008, Moderates were hot stuff. After 2010, Tea Party conservatives became the flavor of the day. Now time to move back to center. Standing on principles is a thing of the past for many.

Of course the Dems will overreach, just like the GOP overreached. Very predictable creatures these political animals. Lets hope that compromise and solutions replace the empty rhethoric of both parties.
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Very fair and interesting point. The answer to both questions is yes. GOP will move more to the center, it is a game of momentum and what picks up votes. If you recall in 2008, Moderates were hot stuff. After 2010, Tea Party conservatives became the flavor of the day. Now time to move back to center. Standing on principles is a thing of the past for many.

Of course the Dems will overreach, just like the GOP overreached. Very predictable creatures these political animals. Lets hope that compromise and solutions replace the empty rhethoric of both parties.
Well that is the rational thing to do...just like we all thought it was too irrational for profit-seeking capitalists to make moves that would surely result in bankruptcy for their companies......yet like lunatic lemmings many ran right off the cliff in 2008. I truly hope you are right about the GOP party movement...but I am not so sure which direction they will head.

And I also hope that my Democrats do not get too heady and too willing to drive off that fiscal cliff...
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2008 was told the Reps off big time.

2010 told the Dems off big time

2012 I think told everyone its time to make things work as its an even split...
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