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Old 01-02-2014   #1 (permalink)
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Hola from Canada!

Hi everyone,

I'm currently living in Canada (just returned from a trip to Playa Del Carmen area 2 weeks ago), and I am NOT cut out for Canada.

I need the Ocean life, and Mexico seems to be the most well suited location, based on what I need. But, to do it intelligently, I'm looking for some help, from others who have done it, and that can help me with Real estate or a rental property.

I'm not looking for "tourist" prices, but local price/areas, but still a 5min or so drive to the coast.

Thanks to anyone who can help out!

Mike

P.S. it's negative 40 celsius here right now.
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Hi! I would like to introduce myself, since I'm also from Canada I won't start a new thread

We are moving to Playa del Carmen in July 2014. We are a young family (my partner, myself and our little 5-year old daughter) and we live in Montréal, Québec. We have been travelling a lot and we used to live temporary in Hawaii and also Western Europe.

But now, as happy as we are with our lives, we just CAN'T stand the cold and LONG Canadian winters anymore. Every year we feel desperate when we see that winter is coming. We want to discover a new culture, learn Spanish and after two trips to Mexico we choose to move to PDC.

I have been reading playa.info for a while now and I've found it so much interesting. Also, I would like to thank Michele who published very, very useful information regarding shools in Playa del Carmen. My boyfriend and I really enjoyed reading it and we met the principal of Montessori school in Playa 2 months ago. It looks like a good school (BTW our daughter is already in the Montessori school system in Québec) and we are in process to register her in the PDC school.

Michelle, I might have a few questions for you sometimes so I hope you could help us :-)

Master: you are absolutely right, it is f***g cold right now that I can't even cry outside!! Canada would be such a perfect country if it wasn't of the weather. I hope you will achieve your goal to move to Mexico. :-)

Thank you,

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I too am Canadian, from Vancouver and I lived in Playa for two years back in 2004 & 2005. The one thing I would recommend you guys think hard about and really need to plan is how you're going to make a living down there. Its illegal to work without a visa and I read another thread recently where it might even be illegal to earn money working remotely from there without a permit, i.e. if you work remotely for a company back home. Be careful, there's a been a serious crackdown on that stuff since I lived there.

If you can make it work you'll love it, I really regret leaving there and plan to return one day so I totally get why you would want to do it.

Good luck to you both!
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I too am Canadian, from Vancouver and I lived in Playa for two years back in 2004 & 2005. The one thing I would recommend you guys think hard about and really need to plan is how you're going to make a living down there. Its illegal to work without a visa and I read another thread recently where it might even be illegal to earn money working remotely from there without a permit, i.e. if you work remotely for a company back home. Be careful, there's a been a serious crackdown on that stuff since I lived there.

If you can make it work you'll love it, I really regret leaving there and plan to return one day so I totally get why you would want to do it.

Good luck to you both!
Hi Andy!

I must say that I don't really understand this work permit thing...the reason why we plan to move to Mexico is because we want to earn money from our Internet activities and live under the sun...I don't see why it would be illegal as we don't take any jobs from Mexicans and our businesses have nothing to do with Mexico. Plus, a lot of foreigners work remotely in Mexico! Getting a work visa from which sponsor? Ourselves? LOL

I'm skeptical about stuff "read in a forum" as it should be some official info to be considered true stuff. We want to apply for the "temporal residente" permit, valid 1-4 years. I went to the Mexican consular website and there is nothing about remote work being illegal...

So, if you guys have more info, I'm interested!

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I hear you but its the same thing when you live in Canada. If you are a resident of a country and you are earning an income, you have to declare that income and file a tax return. Its the basic principals of income tax. You must declare what you earn where you earn it (live) and also where you are a citizen. Its the same in Canada and the US... the truth is, many people do it and just don't declare it, its technically illegal but I guess people do it all the time.

all I'm saying is, make sure you do your homework and make your decisions based on knowledge of the rules so you don't have any surprises!

Also, if you're planning to drive to Playa as I did, you really need to find out about the new foreign plated car rules, apparently there's been a major crackdown on that as well since I left.

good luck!!!
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I hear you but its the same thing when you live in Canada. If you are a resident of a country and you are earning an income, you have to declare that income and file a tax return. Its the basic principals of income tax. You must declare what you earn where you earn it (live) and also where you are a citizen. Its the same in Canada and the US... the truth is, many people do it and just don't declare it, its technically illegal but I guess people do it all the time.
LOL The thing is I've been an immigration officer myself, and what you're saying is not true. Taxes have nothing to do here, we're talking about immigration law, not tax law. These are two completely different worlds Andy!

What I'm saying it that under the "temporal residente" we're allowed to work FOR MYSELF under the immigration law. You say we're not, which it not true since I won't technically work for a Mexican company (or going on the Mexican work market).

Taxes are not related to where you live, but where are your ties. Canada will still be our "primary country" because of our ties (real estate, banking, business, etc.). If we decide to move on a permanently in Mexico and sell all of our belongings in Canada, it's something else. But this is not our case actually, we are going to be temporary residents for a year or two, to see how it is to live there.

I just wanted to make it clear if other people read this thread

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Also, if you're planning to drive to Playa as I did, you really need to find out about the new foreign plated car rules, apparently there's been a major crackdown on that as well since I left.
No, we're not planning to come with our car, Montréal to PDC in a Nissan Versa with a child...no way! I'm the only driver, so I really don't think I could make it.
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I too am Canadian, from Vancouver and I lived in Playa for two years back in 2004 & 2005. The one thing I would recommend you guys think hard about and really need to plan is how you're going to make a living down there. Its illegal to work without a visa and I read another thread recently where it might even be illegal to earn money working remotely from there without a permit, i.e. if you work remotely for a company back home. Be careful, there's a been a serious crackdown on that stuff since I lived there.

If you can make it work you'll love it, I really regret leaving there and plan to return one day so I totally get why you would want to do it.

Good luck to you both!
I see a lot of people return from there, which is a bit scary, but it's nice to get someone's opinion with some context. And it's really reassuring to see that you would love to return.

I'm going to look into the whole working stuff later, first I want to sell my house here, because I want to sever all ties, and be ready to just pick up and go. I'll be looking at VISAs and such soon, ideally I want to start like a Bed and Breakfast, and start a small tourism operation, for Tulum ruins, lunch, snorkelling, hikes, scuba diving etc. I'm sure some folks would appreciate being in the hands of someone that's been where they have, you know what I mean? Sometimes people feel good in the "familiar".
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LOL The thing is I've been an immigration officer myself, and what you're saying is not true. Taxes have nothing to do here, we're talking about immigration law, not tax law. These are two completely different worlds Andy!

What I'm saying it that under the "temporal residente" we're allowed to work FOR MYSELF under the immigration law. You say we're not, which it not true since I won't technically work for a Mexican company (or going on the Mexican work market).

Taxes are not related to where you live, but where are your ties. Canada will still be our "primary country" because of our ties (real estate, banking, business, etc.). If we decide to move on a permanently in Mexico and sell all of our belongings in Canada, it's something else. But this is not our case actually, we are going to be temporary residents for a year or two, to see how it is to live there.

I just wanted to make it clear if other people read this thread
Are you going to be keeping a Primary Address in Canada?

I think you guys are just misunderstanding each other, he's right that traditionally where you reside, is where you declare your income, there are a lot of loopholes, but as Mexico develops, there's more opportunities for locals to profit, and a lot of Americans and foreign investors are "taking over", so I'm sure there's truth to what he's saying about the crack downs. He's just advising people to be a little more cautious about income declaration, but that may not be a concern for your situation (temp. resident).

I'm planning on selling my home here in Canada, storing some bigger stuff, and packing up a few bags to go down. Ideally 6 months or so to explore, and then see if it's for me. At the very worse, it'll be a nice vacation. I really don't see myself wanting to come back here though, this isn't the type of life I was made for.
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Hi! I would like to introduce myself, since I'm also from Canada I won't start a new thread

We are moving to Playa del Carmen in July 2014. We are a young family (my partner, myself and our little 5-year old daughter) and we live in Montréal, Québec. We have been travelling a lot and we used to live temporary in Hawaii and also Western Europe.

But now, as happy as we are with our lives, we just CAN'T stand the cold and LONG Canadian winters anymore. Every year we feel desperate when we see that winter is coming. We want to discover a new culture, learn Spanish and after two trips to Mexico we choose to move to PDC.

I have been reading playa.info for a while now and I've found it so much interesting. Also, I would like to thank Michele who published very, very useful information regarding shools in Playa del Carmen. My boyfriend and I really enjoyed reading it and we met the principal of Montessori school in Playa 2 months ago. It looks like a good school (BTW our daughter is already in the Montessori school system in Québec) and we are in process to register her in the PDC school.

Michelle, I might have a few questions for you sometimes so I hope you could help us :-)

Master: you are absolutely right, it is f***g cold right now that I can't even cry outside!! Canada would be such a perfect country if it wasn't of the weather. I hope you will achieve your goal to move to Mexico. :-)

Thank you,
It's hell here. negative 40 celsius, and we're still going to get 40 cm of snow over the weekend. I literally have NO WHERE to put the snow anymore.

Parlez vous francais aussi? Je suis nee au Quebec, a Joliette.

Funny you mention Hawaii, because my old folks live in Las Vegas, and go there every 2 years. I may be going to meet them in Hawaii in 2 weeks...
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over the last 10 years of wintering here,,,,the only thing i have seen is that there have been a pile of people that have tried to just move here and live,,,i have seen a pile of people have to leave for 1 reason or another,,,the only ones that seem to survive are the ones that come here for 4-5 months every winter, then return to their jobs back home,,,,if your young,,id suggest that,,,,i have seen a pile of failed attempts at a your retirement here,,,just my 2 cents worth
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over the last 10 years of wintering here,,,,the only thing i have seen is that there have been a pile of people that have tried to just move here and live,,,i have seen a pile of people have to leave for 1 reason or another,,,the only ones that seem to survive are the ones that come here for 4-5 months every winter, then return to their jobs back home,,,,if your young,,id suggest that,,,,i have seen a pile of failed attempts at a your retirement here,,,just my 2 cents worth
Hi Rob! Good that you wintering in Mexico :-)

We don't plan anything over one year because we never know what's gonna happen. We move for one year, and then we'll see. It's hard to me to leave for only 4-5 months every year because I have a young child who just started school! Also, I have a job at the government. I'm entitled to unpaid leave but still. We are young family and can't live like retired people

I think that we should just try and see, we won't lose much if it "fails".
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It's hell here. negative 40 celsius, and we're still going to get 40 cm of snow over the weekend. I literally have NO WHERE to put the snow anymore.

Parlez vous francais aussi? Je suis nee au Quebec, a Joliette.

Funny you mention Hawaii, because my old folks live in Las Vegas, and go there every 2 years. I may be going to meet them in Hawaii in 2 weeks...
Bien sur que je parle français! Wow c'est cool! Tu viens de Joliette alors, tu travailles à Ottawa? Je suis de la banlieue de Montréal, à Laval. Tu comptes partir quand?

Oui, je garde mon adresse au Québec car je loue ma maison. Comme on ne sait pas si on veut vivre indéfiniment au Mexique, on fait juste un test pour un an. Je dois te dire par contre que mon chum n'a vraiment plus envie de vivre au Québec!

Hawaii est un de mes endroits préférés

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Hi Rob! Good that you wintering in Mexico :-)

We don't plan anything over one year because we never know what's gonna happen. We move for one year, and then we'll see. It's hard to me to leave for only 4-5 months every year because I have a young child who just started school! Also, I have a job at the government. I'm entitled to unpaid leave but still. We are young family and can't live like retired people

I think that we should just try and see, we won't lose much if it "fails".

i truley do wish the best to yous,,i really do....
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Bien sur que je parle français! Wow c'est cool! Tu viens de Joliette alors, tu travailles à Ottawa? Je suis de la banlieue de Montréal, à Laval. Tu comptes partir quand?

Oui, je garde mon adresse au Québec car je loue ma maison. Comme on ne sait pas si on veut vivre indéfiniment au Mexique, on fait juste un test pour un an. Je dois te dire par contre que mon chum n'a vraiment plus envie de vivre au Québec!

Hawaii est un de mes endroits préférés

hey there is a french bar here next to the dirty martini,,,alot of french people here,,,the bar is usually packed,,,,,i m sure its a good place for french cdns,,,i dont go there,,,the other night i was walking by there was a hockey game on,,conn against montreal,,i was outside cheering for conn,,,we all knew they would win,,,i think it was 5-4 for conn,,anyway they told me to move along i was out on the street,,,,how do you feel about that??
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