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Old 03-10-2014   #1 (permalink)
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Change in entry law??

I have several posts on Trip Advisor where people who have a conviction on there record are being turned away at Cancun airport. Some of these people said there conviction is as old as 35 years. They said they were told there is a new law and that is why they are being turned away.

My brother who has a 30 year old conviction has been vacationing with us in Playa for many years and have not had any issues getting in. But after reading the recent issues he is nervous about it. He contacted the Mexican consulate in in Cancun and Washington DC and neither of them could give him a straight answer. Cancun said it could be a possibility he will be turned away and was told to contact the one in DC. He spoke to someone there and they said they don't think it will be a problem but it is up to the agent when he arrives at the airport.

He asked them if he got a visa would it easier to get in and they stated they will not issue a visa for someone who is not staying the minimum amount of time required for a visa.

He book his trip months ago for vacation for next month and he would be embarrassed to get there and be turned away in addition to losing a good amount of money.

It sounds like it is a crap shoot if they will let someone in. Does anyone have info on this? Is there a new law that you guys are aware of?
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Does anyone have info on this? Is there a new law that you guys are aware of?
Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for your question and this is the first I've heard of it. My question is how they find that out in the short period of time that you're standing there at immigration?
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How would Mexico immigration know about a US conviction?
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A recent TA thread about it:

Entry to Mexico from US With Crimianl Record (Felony)?? - Cancun Forum - TripAdvisor

I think there was a post in there with a link that specifies what types of felony convictions they can turn you away with (?)
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I've been charged with a felony which was reduced to a misdemeanor and never had issues.

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I have been wondering the same thing. Some people said there names were called on the plane when it landed and was told to stay on the plane. I But it appears to be happening in the past several months. One guy who it happened to last month has a 35 year old conviction. He said he has been clean and no issues since then. I don't get it either.
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How would Mexico immigration know about a US conviction?
Was JUST discussing this with a friend but this happened to her going into Canada about 10 years ago (maybe more). She had an old conviction that was a misdemeanor in the U.S. (from when she was about 18 years old) and when Canada ran her passport they refused her entry saying that her misdemeanor in the U.S. was a considered a felony in Canada. They didn't let her in.
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Knowing the old friend was refused to Mexico recently makes me nervous. He is on the fence on what to do. If he cancels now he will loose $400 for airfare but if he waited and tried to get in and is refused he will loose $1500 because the hotel portion would be non refundable by then.
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Knowing the old friend was refused to Mexico recently makes me nervous. He is on the fence on what to do. If he cancels now he will loose $400 for airfare but if he waited and tried to get in and is refused he will loose $1500 because the hotel portion would be non refundable by then.
Get a letter from local law enforcement explaining the situation, and stating that he is now in good standing, a good boy, and an upright citizen, etc. Keep it in his pocket, show it only if asked.

RE other posts: I can't see how a misdemeanor in the US would be considered a felony in Canada - seems like the charging jurisdiction is in charge of that, not some presumptuous lacky elsewhere playing a game of '...what if...?'.
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I don't know, I always thought the boarder security people were responsible to keep the bad guys out.
Yep, but that depends on how 'bad guy' is defined (and who does the defining. And whether they did it correctly. And so on. Got to stay on your toes - and keep them on their toes - or your bar code might get warped.)
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I wonder why all of a sudden this is a issue. My brother was a dumb 18 year old kid. It wasn' . Anythin like a murder charge
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Get a letter from local law enforcement explaining the situation, and stating that he is now in good standing, a good boy, and an upright citizen, etc. Keep it in his pocket, show it only if asked.

RE other posts: I can't see how a misdemeanor in the US would be considered a felony in Canada - seems like the charging jurisdiction is in charge of that, not some presumptuous lacky elsewhere playing a game of '...what if...?'.
go on-line "google" and find out what in the US that is considered a misdemeanor is considered a felony in Canada. We are a totally different country with different laws. When you cross the bridge from MI to Ontario there are huge signs "no guns allowed in Canada", please stop and turn in all firearms to MI authorities. Do people do it? No. Do they get caught? Yes. What happens? Jail. Directly. Just ask a doctor that thought this did not apply to him. We fly out of Detroit, MI and their customs regulations are different than ours. We only bring back what is allowed in the US because that's where we are landing.

Some people just don't seem to get it. Immigration people can come across as very officious, but a lacky? I don't think so. You must be proficient in at least 2 languages to work immigration at the Canadian border and you must continually upgrade your education in order to progress. We cross the border at least once every two weeks and once they swipe our passports they know exactly where we've been and when.

I honestly have no idea what the solution to this is other than: just try it. The point I'm trying to make is; every country is different. At least he's tried to find out for himself what is acceptable in Mexico. I really hope there is no problem and that you all have a wonderful time.

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Get a letter from local law enforcement explaining the situation, and stating that he is now in good standing, a good boy, and an upright citizen, etc. Keep it in his pocket, show it only if asked.

RE other posts: I can't see how a misdemeanor in the US would be considered a felony in Canada - seems like the charging jurisdiction is in charge of that, not some presumptuous lacky elsewhere playing a game of '...what if...?'.
Because...it's a different country with different laws? I'm not being sarcastic but I would think it is perfectly possible that a crime considered a misdemeanor here could be considered a felony in Canada.
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