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Old 06-03-2014   #16 (permalink)
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And I thought the Socialist joke was funny.
I am retired now and living off your productivity. Maybe I am a bit sensitive

Guess I will have a Havana Club and Coke - you Cuban cigar smoker, you
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Yes it will. The only people who believe raising minimum wage will help are people that don't have employees to worry about. With every minimum wage increase we have in Oregon, my high school kids get a raise and the experienced printer does not. My options? Use less high school kids. Put more work load on the other employees.

Minimum wage is NOT DESIGNED TO SUPPORT FAMILIES! That ideal needs to be stopped. Quit rewarding people that under achieve in business or education and punishing the people at earn it. None of my employees (including myself) that earn more than minimum wage will get a raise this year. The economy won't allow it. Except the entry level workers. They will. How the hell am I supposed to train someone and give them raises when minimum wage increases faster than the real market.

We all just get closer to the bottom. Someday, we will all make minimum wage and pay $20 for a big mac. But health care will be free. It will be crappy health care. But beggars can't be choosers.

I think it's called, Socialism?


omg I am Socialist??


no, wait, burgers are still only $3.

Whew!
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omg I am Socialist??


no, wait, burgers are still only $3.

Whew!
You will still get burgers for $3, but the change will be a touch screen taking your order and asking if you want fries with that rather than your neighbor kid. $15 an hour at fast food places (and many others) removes 1 human worker in three and automates the process. Ah, but this is the future where everything is automatic!
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You will still get burgers for $3, but the change will be a touch screen taking your order and asking if you want fries with that rather than your neighbor kid. $15 an hour at fast food places (and many others) removes 1 human worker in three and automates the process. Ah, but this is the future where everything is automatic!

speculation

Hasn't happened here yet in areas where fast food workers get $15 an hour.

I guess we will see.
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Burger King or Walmart are poor career choices. They are entry level jobs as people progress toward a real career. If you opened a burger stand and were were paying someone $15.00 an hour to flip burgers, how many employees could you have? I understand that there are people that this is a challenge to, but they are few and far between.

We are already feeding our young men estrogen enriched meat in the burgers to make them cheap, but the flip side is, young girls mature faster. A McDonalds hamburger and fries will look the same after 14 years due to the preservatives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfdg4ymCiT8

So, we are eating and feeding our children food that is so laced with preservatives that it won't even mold, or rot, just to cut the cost of a happy meal. Timers on the deep fryers, no free ketchup unless you ask. Every corner is cut to save money. And yes, they are making money.

But, when they stop making a profit enough to justify operation, they will fold. If you think that the simplest task deserves $15.00 per hour, you have never run a business.

I would be all for this if these positions were only available to those who are currently on welfare. At least then we would be getting something for our money.

But the liberals will never support that, they need the poor to keep their power.
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But the liberals will never support that, they need the poor to keep their power.
Who is opposed creating greater income equality through raises in the minimum wage and greater tax cuts for the poor and working poor. Hint: it is not the liberals.

You, sir, are full of it, for some values of it
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Who is opposed creating greater income equality through raises in the minimum wage and greater tax cuts for the poor and working poor. Hint: it is not the liberals.

You, sir, are full of it, for some values of it
It is to bad that Obama never created any good paying jobs for the US economy.
Jobs that people could work their way up to.
It's all bullshit anymore anyway.Who gives a F@#!.
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You will still get burgers for $3, but the change will be a touch screen taking your order and asking if you want fries with that rather than your neighbor kid. $15 an hour at fast food places (and many others) removes 1 human worker in three and automates the process. Ah, but this is the future where everything is automatic!
Till the power goes off. Then people won't even know how to take a crap on their own because they never had to learn how.
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It is to bad that Obama never created any good paying jobs for the US economy.
Jobs that people could work their way up to.
It's all bullshit anymore anyway.Who gives a F@#!.
My Dear Mr. Six,

I worked at a community college the last 13 years of my work life. We offered over 80 career technical programs, at lengths ranging from a few months to a couple of years. During the Great Recession our enrollment swelled.

There are many people who today have good paying jobs in the Pacific Northwest economy due to training programs and financial aid programs funded by the federal, state and local governments - some of them via the much maligned ARRA, which provided tens of billions of dollars in support of primary, seconday and post-secondary education during the depths of the Great Recession.

I think you will find that a great many people still care, including many of my colleagues in post-secondary education. The notion that it is all BS does not resonate with me and I am sure it does not with most folks working to help prepare people for the workforce. That includes young people and people who are back in school getting/upgrading skills for employment.

Do not let cynicism take over your life.
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Till the power goes off. Then people won't even know how to take a crap on their own because they never had to learn how.
Is there an app for that?
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FWIIW - my daughter just got her 1st office job while in college, she will probably make less than she did in the food industry (she made good tips).

She said she never wants to work in the food industry again !!!
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Who is opposed creating greater income equality through raises in the minimum wage and greater tax cuts for the poor and working poor. Hint: it is not the liberals.

You, sir, are full of it, for some values of it
Like there is something wrong with income inequality? Some slack off, quit school and party on welfare while the others applies themselves, sacrifice, study, work during college for years.

So a garbage man or a burger flipper deserve the same as a doctor? So we can all be equal? Who came up with that brilliant idea?

Communism and socialism both failed for a reason.

But I won't stoop to personal insults, that is cheap.

The facts are obvious. Apply yourself, work hard, get a better education and make more money. Income equality is a liberal Pied Piper tune for the poor, nothing more, promising more for less.
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So a garbage man or a burger flipper deserve the same as a doctor? So we can all be equal? Who came up with that brilliant idea?





Nobody here.
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The facts are obvious. Apply yourself, work hard, get a better education and make more money. Income equality is a liberal Pied Piper tune for the poor, nothing more, promising more for less.
Exactly, those are not conservative or liberal values. Those are human values.

Your statement that follows that is nonsense, though. The majority of Americans, including a majority of Republicans support an increase in the minimum wage. The majority of Americans support a fair and progressive tax system. The notion that those are things that only liberals support is a false belief that some conservatives hold.

Neither of those things support income equality, but they both support basic fairness.
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The only minimum wage that should be raised is that of servers and tipped personnel. And that's long overdue. But the government won't do that because the hospitality industry has a strong lobby.

Waitresses Stuck at $2.13 Hourly Minimum for 22 Years
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