beach reclamation project (photos) - Page 3

Grande Jaime · 06-01-2004

Oh My! The poor Porto Real! If it was not for that monstrosity we would still have the beaches that we used to 12 years ago. Their building and the extension of the point is what caused the huge changes to begin with now, just imagine what the new pier will do! If you change the current flow, you will undoubtable change the properties of the beach. DUH!

chamba · 06-10-2004

its real romantic and all to walk down the beach hand in hand with your loved one with your feet in the caribbean. even more romantic to take your feet, and your loved one, out of the water only to stroll around all those stinkin nets. I hope it works.....

**james** · 06-10-2004

the beach reclamation project failed. the nets tore away from the posts.

as far as Porto Real causing all the problems, I've taken enough wave theory in the university to know that it's a very complex model to study. I've heard so many local experts blame it on one thing or another but I don't think it's been studied adequately to say.

Sue · 06-10-2004

So, all that stuff is gone now?

The last time I was in Playa, two years ago, the beach at the Alhambra was tiny. JimmyinMN recently sent me a photo of that spot, and the beach was HUGE (in comparison). Is it still?

**ryberg** · 06-10-2004

Alhambra does have a photo on some of their promotional material of the beach looking very large indeed, larger than it's looked at any point during the entire time we've been in operation (which means virtually 2 years now).

Anyway, I was going to say as well that if I understand correctly, the GPR is footing a large portion, at least, of the bill for this pilot project. I can appreciate that, at least, and I'm not exactly out there every day with the goal of saying something especially nice about them. Maybe they are owning up to something and trying to make up for it? Or maybe they are just suffering more and have more capital than the small hotels and trying to get some of their own benefit? Either way, even if the reclamation doesn't reclaim much of anything, it's not a bad gesture.

Steve

**tommy** · 06-17-2004

Steve, how are the beaches looking around you as of now...are the poles and nets back up? whats it like..any current pic's of the beach?

**ryberg** · 06-17-2004

Uh, well, the poles and nets have never been taken down, actually. Unfortunately they're more exposed now than before, because as you might imagine, all that rain and extra runoff last week took a lot of sand with it. So things are looking pretty rocky right now, at least between the docks (haven't seen elsewhere).

I'm guessing they were fixing to take the poles and nets out not too long before the storm hit, but that they'll now be leaving them there for a good chunk longer. But that's just guessing -- I don't have any info on that.

Steve

**tommy** · 06-17-2004

any current pic's?

**ryberg** · 06-17-2004

Sorry, but our digital camera went down again not too long ago and we haven't gotten another one yet. Not that I'd exactly be running out to take pictures of the beach right now even if I did have one...

Steve

Sue · 06-18-2004

Steve, you make it sound like it's terrible!

I'm going to be there in a week. I'm not exactly freaking out or anything, because no matter what, Playa is awesome and I can always walk north, but, geez.

**ryberg** · 06-18-2004

Sorry. The beach isn't terrible right now. It's just not at its best, either, after that storm. I'm in the school of underestimating things so that people may in the end be pleasantly surprised but will almost certainly not be disappointed. You could certainly still be in a lot of places that are worse than Playa next week!

Steve

Sue · 06-18-2004

Thanks. I'm going to come over to your hotel and have a drink at your bar, since I'll be right next door. By the way, has the Alhambra re-opened their restaurant yet?

Captdave · 06-20-2004

These nets are the biggest bunch of S--T I have ever seen, a major waste of money. The beaches go and come with the north or south winds and have been doing it since I have lived here, almost 10 years.

David

Sue · 06-20-2004

This is going to sound like a stupid question, but I'm just having trouble imagining it. Am I going to get tangled up in this stuff if I go for a swim?

Krystof · 07-30-2004

Beach Restoration Problem
I talked to Porto Real staffer who said that the beach rstoration project with the steel pipes driven into the sand and nets to catch the sand has cost the hotel $180,000. I told him of a Reefball foundation and Dr. Lee Harris from Florida Oceanography Institute who could evaluate the project and recommend an approach to the problem. WWW.reefball.com claims to be a non profit foundation for restoration of world's endangered reefs. It provides at cost moulds for thin shell concrete ball reef replacement structures to reinitiate corral growth and as a benefit to attenuate wave action and build up beach sand. This work is undertaken by community minded people and corporations thus the cost becomes minimal and results are generally very satisfactory.

06-10-2004	#33 (permalink)
james beach geek admin Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 10 year Playa resident lost in Kullavik, Sweden Posts: 9,745	the beach reclamation project failed. the nets tore away from the posts. as far as Porto Real causing all the problems, I've taken enough wave theory in the university to know that it's a very complex model to study. I've heard so many local experts blame it on one thing or another but I don't think it's been studied adequately to say. __________________ My lovely house is for sale Get your own signature countdown image!

07-30-2004	#45 (permalink)
Krystof sandflea Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1	Beach Restoration Problem Beach Restoration Problem I talked to Porto Real staffer who said that the beach rstoration project with the steel pipes driven into the sand and nets to catch the sand has cost the hotel $180,000. I told him of a Reefball foundation and Dr. Lee Harris from Florida Oceanography Institute who could evaluate the project and recommend an approach to the problem. WWW.reefball.com claims to be a non profit foundation for restoration of world's endangered reefs. It provides at cost moulds for thin shell concrete ball reef replacement structures to reinitiate corral growth and as a benefit to attenuate wave action and build up beach sand. This work is undertaken by community minded people and corporations thus the cost becomes minimal and results are generally very satisfactory. Last edited by Krystof; 07-30-2004 at 07:27 PM. Reason: bad spelling

06-01-2004	#31 (permalink)
Grande Jaime ruined Join Date: May 2003 Location: Full time Playa persona Posts: 80	Oh My! The poor Porto Real! If it was not for that monstrosity we would still have the beaches that we used to 12 years ago. Their building and the extension of the point is what caused the huge changes to begin with now, just imagine what the new pier will do! If you change the current flow, you will undoubtable change the properties of the beach. DUH!

06-10-2004	#32 (permalink)
chamba lost on fifth Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tulum, MX Posts: 15	its real romantic and all to walk down the beach hand in hand with your loved one with your feet in the caribbean. even more romantic to take your feet, and your loved one, out of the water only to stroll around all those stinkin nets. I hope it works.....

06-10-2004	#34 (permalink)
Sue añejo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,168	So, all that stuff is gone now? The last time I was in Playa, two years ago, the beach at the Alhambra was tiny. JimmyinMN recently sent me a photo of that spot, and the beach was HUGE (in comparison). Is it still?

06-10-2004	#35 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wandering between the Village Vanguard, NYC, 1961 and the Plugged Nickel, Chicago, 1965 Posts: 10,839	Alhambra does have a photo on some of their promotional material of the beach looking very large indeed, larger than it's looked at any point during the entire time we've been in operation (which means virtually 2 years now). Anyway, I was going to say as well that if I understand correctly, the GPR is footing a large portion, at least, of the bill for this pilot project. I can appreciate that, at least, and I'm not exactly out there every day with the goal of saying something especially nice about them. Maybe they are owning up to something and trying to make up for it? Or maybe they are just suffering more and have more capital than the small hotels and trying to get some of their own benefit? Either way, even if the reclamation doesn't reclaim much of anything, it's not a bad gesture. Steve

06-17-2004	#36 (permalink)
tommy Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin Tx Posts: 12,216	Steve, how are the beaches looking around you as of now...are the poles and nets back up? whats it like..any current pic's of the beach?

06-17-2004	#37 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wandering between the Village Vanguard, NYC, 1961 and the Plugged Nickel, Chicago, 1965 Posts: 10,839	Uh, well, the poles and nets have never been taken down, actually. Unfortunately they're more exposed now than before, because as you might imagine, all that rain and extra runoff last week took a lot of sand with it. So things are looking pretty rocky right now, at least between the docks (haven't seen elsewhere). I'm guessing they were fixing to take the poles and nets out not too long before the storm hit, but that they'll now be leaving them there for a good chunk longer. But that's just guessing -- I don't have any info on that. Steve

06-17-2004	#38 (permalink)
tommy Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin Tx Posts: 12,216	any current pic's?

06-17-2004	#39 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wandering between the Village Vanguard, NYC, 1961 and the Plugged Nickel, Chicago, 1965 Posts: 10,839	Sorry, but our digital camera went down again not too long ago and we haven't gotten another one yet. Not that I'd exactly be running out to take pictures of the beach right now even if I did have one... Steve

06-18-2004	#40 (permalink)
Sue añejo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,168	Steve, you make it sound like it's terrible! I'm going to be there in a week. I'm not exactly freaking out or anything, because no matter what, Playa is awesome and I can always walk north, but, geez.

06-18-2004	#41 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wandering between the Village Vanguard, NYC, 1961 and the Plugged Nickel, Chicago, 1965 Posts: 10,839	Sorry. The beach isn't terrible right now. It's just not at its best, either, after that storm. I'm in the school of underestimating things so that people may in the end be pleasantly surprised but will almost certainly not be disappointed. You could certainly still be in a lot of places that are worse than Playa next week! Steve

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06-18-2004	#42 (permalink)
Sue añejo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,168	Thanks. I'm going to come over to your hotel and have a drink at your bar, since I'll be right next door. By the way, has the Alhambra re-opened their restaurant yet?

06-20-2004	#43 (permalink)
Captdave sandflea Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	These nets are the biggest bunch of S--T I have ever seen, a major waste of money. The beaches go and come with the north or south winds and have been doing it since I have lived here, almost 10 years. David

06-20-2004	#44 (permalink)
Sue añejo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,168	This is going to sound like a stupid question, but I'm just having trouble imagining it. Am I going to get tangled up in this stuff if I go for a swim?