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Old 06-18-2014   #1 (permalink)
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I read on another forum that the residente temporal was mandatory to open a CFE account...true?

Same thing as purchasing a car or getting a mexican driver's license.

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I read on another forum that the residente temporal was mandatory to open a CFE account...true?

Same thing as purchasing a car or getting a mexican driver's license.

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We do not have a CFE account in our name. It is not unusual for it to be in the landlord's name if you are renting.

Our residente temporal card was used by the dealership to get the plates for the new car we bought. The CURP number may be needed. The consulate in Portland told us we would need permanente status to buy a car. Not the case.

No clue about the driver's license.
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Thanks Roni!

Yes, we are renting. We found a townhouse through a real estate agency. I was just wondering if it was gonna be my name on the account, the agency's name or the owner's name of the house? I'm gonna ask the owner this week, he lives in my city.
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I read on another forum that the residente temporal was mandatory to open a CFE account...true?

Same thing as purchasing a car or getting a mexican driver's license.

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We do not have a residente temporal, but we own a condo, and the CFE account is in our name.
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We do not have a residente temporal, but we own a condo, and the CFE account is in our name.
Thanks for your answer Mfl!

Just asking...Why didn't you apply for the residente temporal?
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Sometimes the bill will be in the builders name.
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Just as a note, CFE bills are almost like ID here in Mexico. Almost everyone ask for copies of them. If you are renting then just having the bill with the address but the owners name is usually sufficient. It is good though to put it in your name if you own your place. It can help build your case for residency and may be a requirement if you want to sell your place and not pay capital gains.
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Thanks for your answer Mfl!

Just asking...Why didn't you apply for the residente temporal?
Just don't think it is necessary, yet.
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Just as a note, CFE bills are almost like ID here in Mexico. Almost everyone ask for copies of them. If you are renting then just having the bill with the address but the owners name is usually sufficient. It is good though to put it in your name if you own your place. It can help build your case for residency and may be a requirement if you want to sell your place and not pay capital gains.
Great info mr Yucatan, as usual! Thanks!
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Just as a note, CFE bills are almost like ID here in Mexico. Almost everyone ask for copies of them. If you are renting then just having the bill with the address but the owners name is usually sufficient. It is good though to put it in your name if you own your place. It can help build your case for residency and may be a requirement if you want to sell your place and not pay capital gains.
I don't think so. At least it was not on the list the Consulate gave me. And they assured me all the Consulates have the same requirements.
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I am not implying building a case for immigration but rather for Hacienda. For tax purposes and how your home sale is viewed. Do you really reside in Mexico and are you allowed to not pay capital gains tax. This is how the law can be interpreted by your notario. This has nothing to do with immigration.
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I don't think so. At least it was not on the list the Consulate gave me. And they assured me all the Consulates have the same requirements.
It works as a comprabante for many things, including proof of address to get license plates here in Yucatan state. The bill was not in my name BTW.
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It works as a comprabante for many things, including proof of address to get license plates here in Yucatan state. The bill was not in my name BTW.
Yep, the CFE bill does not need to be in your name (and usually isn't) in order to use it as 'proof of living at a specific address' - just make a copy of the bill (ask your landlord to borrow it for 10 minutes or so, make 2 copies) and submit it as proof that you 'get mail' here at a specific address - odd, but that's how it works.

Works for getting a Driver's License, too - which can be issued for the 180 days you are here (or remaining portion thereof) if you are on a 'tourist visa', and expires when your tourist visa does - it's called a 'provisional' permit, and can be re-issued when it expires. As others have pointed out before, this may be easier in Tulum - I had no problem there, but didn't try Playa - (unlike what you're used to at home, driver's licenses here are issued by the individual cities, not by the state, so your mileage may vary depending on which city you apply in, which may not necessarily be the city your CFE bill is in - quite very odd, that, but nobody said you have to make any sense out of it - just play it as it lies...).

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Works for getting a Driver's License, too - which can be issued for the 180 days you are here (or remaining portion thereof) if you are on a 'tourist visa', and expires when your tourist visa does - it's called a 'provisional' permit, and can be re-issued when it expires. As others have pointed out before, this may be easier in Tulum - I had no problem there, but didn't try Playa - (unlike what you're used to at home, driver's licenses here are issued by the individual cities, not by the state, so your mileage may vary depending on which city you apply in, which may not necessarily be the city your CFE bill is in - quite very odd, that, but nobody said you have to make any sense out of it - just play it as it lies...).
You mean that even if I'm on a tourist visa, I could just go to Tulum with a CFE bill and apply for a provisional driver's license?
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You mean that even if I'm on a tourist visa, I could just go to Tulum with a CFE bill and apply for a provisional driver's license?
Yes, that's it exactly - but check Playa first. I've been told Tulum was easier, and because I lived in Akumal for a spell, I tried there first. The town of Felipe Carillo Puerto (south of Tulum) is also rumored to be even easier, if that's possible (but I had no trouble at all in Tulum - they were courteous and efficient).

You will also need the original and a copy of: 1) lab result showing your blood type, and 2) visa and ID pages (name, DOB, address, photo, etc. - usually the first two pages of your passport, all of which fits on one 8.5" x 11" or A4 sheet of copy paper), and 3) your home state drivers's license (i.e., 'proof' that you 'know how to drive'). I was not asked to take a driving test, although I guess that's possible.

You go in in the morning (the office is in the Fire department building just east Chedraui - i.e., on the road to the beach - take a colectivo, tell driver you're going to Chedraui, get out at the Chedraui road, take taxi to Fire Station - 'Los Bomberos' - go in front door, look to the right, you're there).

They take your app, your DL photo (their camera), and your payment (mine was $167 pesos for 6 months), and then they make the license right there - you hang out till 3 PM (lunch, beach, Chedraui, etc.,) then go pick it up at 3 PM. Clearly better if you have a CFE bill from the area (Akumal, Tulum, etc.), so make a friend in that area... If not, show the CFE bill from Playa, say you live there for the 6 months, but are staying in Tulum for a month - or something.

Your Canadian license is valid here, too (unless you forget to renew it) for essentially the length of your stay (although the law may say otherwise - but for practical purposes, nobody - e.g., municipal cops checking driver's licenses - knows when you arrived, or how long your stay is, or anything else - unless you dumbly offer to show them your passport and visa. Immigration status checks are the job of La Migra, not the local cops, who already have enough to do (or think they do), and either don't want to be bothered with immigration stuff or have been told by one side or the other to stay out of it - turf wars in the enforcement sector - in order to split the loot more equitably. Suerte!
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