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Old 05-08-2017   #61 (permalink)
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There may be specific machines to remove seaweed but I have not seen them used in Playa or Cancun. It's not unusual that the latest, greatest equipment isn't used in Mexico. I've seen 10 story hotels in Cancun get the exterior painted. By hand. Not a compressor or sprayer in sight. The multi level condo project next to the airstrip is being built without a crane. I'm sure we're all aware that things are not always done down here to US/Canadian standards.

I think the sargassum needs to be removed, for the health of the local economy, and if it is done by hand, by hard working and willing individuals, then so be it.
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"Detrimental impacts of mechanical beach grooming Technical Report · author: Antonio Mascarenhas National Institute of Oceanography
Summary Sandy beaches provide habitat and support a great diversity of animals. Beaches dynamically link the sand dunes with the surf zone through a constant interchange of sand, organic matter and nutrients. The surf zones of beaches are important nursery and recruitment areas for fish that rely on the smaller invertebrates as a supply of food. Beaches also provide habitat for many migratory and resident birds, reptiles and other animals which nest, breed, feed and rest on the dunes or open beach. Sandy beach invertebrates feed on what the ocean brings to shores such as phytoplankton (tiny floating plants) and algae. The sea also brings ashore larger dead organisms such as fish, jellyfish and other invertebrates which are eaten by the scavengers like ghost crabs and birds. Some beaches naturally accumulate considerable amounts of seaweed and sea grass on the upper shore near the dunes. Such marine debris is very important because it provides food and shelter Detrimental impacts of mechanical beach grooming, Mascarenhas, 2014 9 to many sandy beach animals and plays an important role in the nutrient dynamics of beaches. The sand cleaning machines suck up and filter the sand, capturing not only debris, but all types of organisms. As a result, mechanical beach cleaning severely disrupts the natural ecological processes and modifies the function and structure of the beach ecosystem. Cleaning machines can kill organisms near the sand surface and can crush deeper-living invertebrates inside their burrows. Grooming of beaches alters beach ecology in the following ways: First, the typically wet sand is drawn up and aerated, contributing to drying out of the sand and making the fine sands more vulnerable to wind erosion. This can result in greater sand migration and sand drifting. Second, grooming can destroy new seedlings establishing at the leading edge of the dune. Seedlings in this ‟embryo‟ dune, or pioneer zone, trap wind-blown sand, develops dunes, and continue to stabilize the area. Mechanical grooming hampers these coastal geological processes. Third, the beach ecosystem is a habitat and feeding grounds for a mosaic of wildlife, including shorebirds, invertebrates, terrestrial insects and vegetation. Grooming with heavy machinery can have a detrimental impact on species and habitat, as beach raking removes organic debris that washes up on the beach forming a strand line. This organic detritus typically releases valuable nutrients into the beach substrate. In India, the CRZ notification of 2011 explicitly forbids any heavy activity on the beaches and dunes. Thus, deployment of mechanical devices on sandy stretches is tantamount to violation of prevailing CRZ laws. In 2001, a management project for Miramar beach was proposed. Mechanical removal of beach litter was one of the projected activities. Since the harmful effects of mechanized tools were already known, there was a serious apprehension in the minds of the public. The beach and dunes should be regarded as a non-renewable resource that must be conserved in order to maintain this natural resource. Increased conservation of these threatened coastal ecosystems could help retain sediment, promote the formation of dunes, maintain biodiversity, wildlife, and increase recreational value of beaches. In view of the review discussed above, it is obvious that deployment of heavy devices for the mechanical removal of litter will cause severe damage, to a point irreversible, to the flora and fauna of the beach dune systems. For the sake of conservation, restoration and wellbeing of faunal and floral diversity, mechanized cleaning of sandy beaches should not be allowed under any circumstances. Instead, manual removal of debris by using light hand tools is therefore strongly recommended."

Bottom line is highlighted: rakes and shovels it is!
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And just like that.....the beaches are clear and beautiful again....how does that happen so fast....?????
Looked at the El Tag webcam today as I do everyday & the seaweed is back. I will say that the beach is bigger than its been in months ! At one time the water was licking the palm trees & I thought they would fall into the ocean. So have all the beaches in playa grown in size recently & does anyone know if the pier in front of El Tag that's in the middle of the ocean was near land at one time ?
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Looked at the El Tag webcam today as I do everyday & the seaweed is back. I will say that the beach is bigger than its been in months ! At one time the water was licking the palm trees & I thought they would fall into the ocean. So have all the beaches in playa grown in size recently & does anyone know if the pier in front of El Tag that's in the middle of the ocean was near land at one time ?
El Taj?
The wooden pier was not there after the beach re-nourishment project. It was built sometime after the beach re-nourishment project was completed.
Also, the beach , except maybe in Playcar Fase I, are all quite a bit shorter then they were after the re-nourishment project.
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Looked at the El Tag webcam today as I do everyday & the seaweed is back. I will say that the beach is bigger than its been in months ! At one time the water was licking the palm trees & I thought they would fall into the ocean. So have all the beaches in playa grown in size recently & does anyone know if the pier in front of El Tag that's in the middle of the ocean was near land at one time ?
The El Taj pier was indeed attached to land for a short while after the reclamation. However, they have demolished and removed part of it that was closer to land as it was lower and was more damaged by the sea. So the beach was not that far out.
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From May 9, 2017, The Yucatan Times:

"Heavy sargasso influx damages Playa del Carmen tourist industry:
PLAYA DEL CARMEN — Carlos Gosselin Maurel, president of the Cancun Hotel Association (AHC), said that satellite monitoring by the University of Galveston, Texas, “is investigating” a huge seaweed detachment from the Sargasso Sea “that could be causing” the brutal influx of sargasso to the shores of Playa del Carmen.
At the beginning of the I Sustainable & Social Tourism Summit, which aims to disseminate, update and exchange knowledge about sustainability, solidarity and social responsibility in the sector, the hotel leader acknowledged that the situation is worrying.
Last weekend, the new Talofite accumulation began on the shores of Playa del Carmen, which, for the third consecutive year, are affected by the seaweed, a situation that also causes loss of tourism services and affects the image of beaches.
Dump trucks enter and leave full with the dead plant, while personnel from the Federal Maritime Ground Zone (Zofemat) and volunteers work to remove the vegetation, which weeks ago began to arrive in smaller amounts, but since the weekend has increased dramatically, he said.
“We have already met five secretaries: Finance (Juan Melquiades Vergara Fernández), Environment (Alfredo Arellano Guillermo), Sintra (Jorge Portilla Mánica), Tourism (Marisol Vanegas Pérez) and Secretary of Government (Xavier López Mena), with whom we saw the reactivation of the Beach Recovery Trust or how to efficiently operate the resources.”
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One version says that “there is a very strong and important algae detachment, very large, in the Sargasso Sea — almost five thousand kilometers from the Mexican Caribbean — but until today we do not have it located, although satellite technology of the University of Galveston is being used,” he said.
“I have been traveling by sea, to see how the situation is and during the day I do not see important amounts. The arrival occurs at dawn, we do have sargasso, and the greatest affectation is now in Playa del Carmen, Punta Cancún (Hotel Zone), also in some points of Puerto Morelos and Tulum.”
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From May 9, 2017, The Yucatan Times:

"Heavy sargasso influx damages Playa del Carmen tourist industry:
PLAYA DEL CARMEN — Carlos Gosselin Maurel, president of the Cancun Hotel Association (AHC), said that satellite monitoring by the University of Galveston, Texas, “is investigating” a huge seaweed detachment from the Sargasso Sea “that could be causing” the brutal influx of sargasso to the shores of Playa del Carmen.
At the beginning of the I Sustainable & Social Tourism Summit, which aims to disseminate, update and exchange knowledge about sustainability, solidarity and social responsibility in the sector, the hotel leader acknowledged that the situation is worrying.
Last weekend, the new Talofite accumulation began on the shores of Playa del Carmen, which, for the third consecutive year, are affected by the seaweed, a situation that also causes loss of tourism services and affects the image of beaches.
Dump trucks enter and leave full with the dead plant, while personnel from the Federal Maritime Ground Zone (Zofemat) and volunteers work to remove the vegetation, which weeks ago began to arrive in smaller amounts, but since the weekend has increased dramatically, he said.
“We have already met five secretaries: Finance (Juan Melquiades Vergara Fernández), Environment (Alfredo Arellano Guillermo), Sintra (Jorge Portilla Mánica), Tourism (Marisol Vanegas Pérez) and Secretary of Government (Xavier López Mena), with whom we saw the reactivation of the Beach Recovery Trust or how to efficiently operate the resources.”
Sargaso-Sea
One version says that “there is a very strong and important algae detachment, very large, in the Sargasso Sea — almost five thousand kilometers from the Mexican Caribbean — but until today we do not have it located, although satellite technology of the University of Galveston is being used,” he said.
“I have been traveling by sea, to see how the situation is and during the day I do not see important amounts. The arrival occurs at dawn, we do have sargasso, and the greatest affectation is now in Playa del Carmen, Punta Cancún (Hotel Zone), also in some points of Puerto Morelos and Tulum.”
So Al you are a very reliable source is that what you see ? I looked at my regular playa webcams today & saw very little seaweed ?
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So Al you are a very reliable source is that what you see ? I looked at my regular playa webcams today & saw very little seaweed ?
Two days ago I was down at the beach. From north of Mamitas to the north pier, there was a line of seaweed on the beach (10am). The only place that had been cleared was in front of the Hyatt. It was certainly not a huge amount and it (amount of seaweed) can and does change daily. I will try to get to the beach this morning and check.
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Yesterday there was a huge amount of seaweed north of the second pier all the way to 38th and beyond, both on the beach and in the water. There were also two tractors picking up and moving the seaweed away. Actually that is the first time I have seen that during the day while at the beach. Don't know what the beach will be like today. At least the seaweed is being moved away but of course it just keeps coming as per the article posted.
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"S" is for seaweed.... Playa del Carmen Webcam - See Playa Live!
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How's the sargassum right now? Haven't heard any talk about it lately so just wondering since we will be back in Playa a week from Saturday.
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We were there May 28 thru June 3. The saragassum was around daily. Sometimes bad sometimes not bad at all. Still, the beautiful water we once used to see in Playa walking down 5th Ave and peeking down 8th, 6th, 4th, etc....isn't what it used to be for sure. Lots of brown water close to the shore.
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How's the sargassum right now? Haven't heard any talk about it lately so just wondering since we will be back in Playa a week from Saturday.
I was down by the main ferry terminal this morning and there was no sargasso on the beach. None.
With that said, the beach there was 75' to 100' shorter (less wide) than it was a week or two ago.
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How's the sargassum right now? Haven't heard any talk about it lately so just wondering since we will be back in Playa a week from Saturday.
Posted a beach pic here a day before your question:

http://www.playa.info/playa-del-carm...ursday-24.html
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And the beach today again, down by the main ferry terminal, was clear of any sargasso.
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And the beach today again, down by the main ferry terminal, was clear of any sargasso.
Just looked at the El Tag webcam & totaly clear of sargasso & the beach is the biggest it's been in 2017
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