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Old 07-23-2017   #46 (permalink)
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Fears of tainted alcohol at Mexican resorts after deaths

Tourists to multiple upscale resorts in and around Cancun and Playa del Carmen say they believe they were drugged or served bootleg alcohol after small amounts of booze caused them to lose consciousness.
When people lose loved ones for reasons that they can't or don't want to comprehend, they may look for easy answers. Rather than accept your daughter binge-drank herself to death, going from 0 to. 25 BAC in a little more than an hour in the sun, it must be that the alcohol was bootleg.

What causes these people to lose consciousness is overindulging in the sun. In many cases, the "victims" are not even of the age to drink in the US but their parents just let them run solo at these resorts, expecting them to know how to drink resonsibly. If they do have any drinking experience, it is the type they would normally try to conceal. When given carte blanche, they don't know how to handle it.
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When people lose loved ones for reasons that they can't or don't want to comprehend, they may look for easy answers.
This is true.

I know this from experience. We did not look for easy answers. We accepted the full truth of why our son died at the age of 19. We have never been much for self-delusion.

Jim Beam was involved in his death.
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This is true.

I know this from experience. We did not look for easy answers. We accepted the full truth of why our son died at the age of 19. We have never been much for self-delusion.

Jim Beam was involved in his death.
I'm sorry.........can't even imagine.
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When people lose loved ones for reasons that they can't or don't want to comprehend, they may look for easy answers. Rather than accept your daughter binge-drank herself to death, going from 0 to. 25 BAC in a little more than an hour in the sun, it must be that the alcohol was bootleg.
I totally agree. What I do find funny is now that this family has gone public with their information about their daughters death and sons injuries, people are crawling out of the woodwork to support their claims about the all-inclusive hotels tainted alcohol. I think that people are quick to jump on and support the claims as a way of not accepting their over indulgence. The "I didn't really imbibe very much so there must be a problem with the booze, or someone drugged me" is to some, a reasonable way of not accepting responsibility for their over indulgence after being out in the tropical sun and heat. I also am now seeing a post about "tainted alcohol" at Mexican All-Inclusives on my Facebook feed from some news agency. Funny thing though a lot of these "incidents" happened months ago, so why are we now hearing about them ? Leming mentality ? JMHO
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Check this out...the story in that Yucatán Times online...Crime - The Yucatan Times

I find it interesting that when you click on the Facebook pages of many of the people that comment that they were also drugged or robbed...well many of their Facebook posts are pro Trump political BS....

I said earlier that I noticed a lot of negative articles online as of late. This is exactly how fake news works. I'm starting to think many of these stories are bull crap and just planted to make Mexico look like bad....
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Check this out...the story in that Yucatán Times online...Crime - The Yucatan Times

I find it interesting that when you click on the Facebook pages of many of the people that comment that they were also drugged or robbed...well many of their Facebook posts are pro Trump political BS....

I said earlier that I noticed a lot of negative articles online as of late. This is exactly how fake news works. I'm starting to think many of these stories are bull crap and just planted to make Mexico look like bad....
I think you are mistaken. Stories like this one pop up every few years. Those of us who have been around for a while know that these stories commonly appear in cycles. It has nothing to do with who is President. Countries compete for tourism dollars. A whole bunch of that money comes to Mexico. There are other countries that benefit from a lack of confidence in Mexico, whether well-founded or not. You even have people paid to badmouth countries, areas or specific resorts. Nothing new here.

Edited to add: Years ago, the Yucatan Times was a respectable read for those looking for English language information sources. These days, it has become a clearinghouse for "chismosas" and poorly Google-translated articles from Mexican media sources, which are notoriously scandal-filled or run directly by political parties. Sad to see.

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The tainted alcohol theory is dubious, at best. Why would only these two young people at the pool have been affected by tainted alcohol and not other guests? It's a sad and strange story all the way around, especially since the brother doesn't remember anything, which is also very suspicious, IMYHOP.
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I believe the altering of drinks does happen; I experienced it in PDC about 20 years ago. My wife and I were out in the late morning early afternoon and stopped at a beach bar a little north of where the Gran Porto is today ( it was just a beach then - no beach clubs etc). We each had one margarita (the only drink we had that day) and walked back to our house in Playacar. In a short time we couldn’t walk, were hallucinating and vomiting for hours - I woke up at 2 am feeling like death. The next day the guard asked who our 2 friends were? He said 2 guys showed up at the entrance stating they were with us - he refused them entrance as they could not provide our names and Casa name. To this day I am convinced this was a robbery attempt which we were lucky to survive.
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The tainted alcohol theory is dubious, at best. Why would only these two young people at the pool have been affected by tainted alcohol and not other guests? It's a sad and strange story all the way around, especially since the brother doesn't remember anything, which is also very suspicious, IMYHOP.
The brother was quoted as saying he couldn't believe they "got played", which is a very odd thing to say with his sister losing her life. He also bragged about being an experienced drinker (his college binging, I guess). Something doesn't quite sit right with his story and subsequent quotes.
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No doubt it happens...have been slipped a mickey once in Playa and one in Cozumel. Luckily in Coz I was at an AI. And very grateful to the Canadian folks who assisted me home a few years ago from ....... during the early evening hours after 2 drinks....couldn't even walk.
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No doubt it happens...have been slipped a mickey once in Playa and one in Cozumel. Luckily in Coz I was at an AI. And very grateful to the Canadian folks who assisted me home a few years ago from ....... during the early evening hours after 2 drinks....couldn't even walk.

Another reason to only drink beer and only out of a can or just opened (in front of you) bottle
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Another reason to only drink beer and only out of a can or just opened (in front of you) bottle
or bring your own wine.
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It is axiomatic in medicine, human nature being what it is, that no matter how carefully explanations are presented to patients, they often (if not invariably) hear only the worst possible news rather than the long and detailed boring explanation of other possibilities.
Sure. That's several times a day in my office.

It's just that I was referring to patients who had never met me before, yet were still misquoting me to myself.
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Another reason to only drink beer and only out of a can or just opened (in front of you) bottle
Not everyone drinks beer.
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Not everyone drinks beer.
Earlier today I was in a small off-then-beaten-path cantina in Valladolid, Cantina El Yuk Tko and ordered up some Jack Daniels as I saw the bottle was still sealed and had not been opened..........yet......
Needless to say, I was the only gringo in there.
Teo and I caught up earlier in the day but he was heading back to Playa with Abigail.
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