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Old 07-21-2017   #1 (permalink)
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One killed, two wounded in another Playa del Carmen nightclub shooting

At the suggestion of a member I tried to find out about the murder that took place on 5th Avenue the other day. Didn't see anything but found this, appears to be several shootings and deaths in weeks:

http://www.theyucatantimes.com/2017/...club-shooting/
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At the suggestion of a member I tried to find out about the murder that took place on 5th Avenue the other day. Didn't see anything but found this, appears to be several shootings and deaths in weeks:

One killed, two wounded in another Playa del Carmen nightclub shooting - The Yucatan Times
That is old news, July 2nd.

From Por Esto today
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"PLAYA DEL CARMEN, SOLIDARIDAD, July 20 .- At the beginning of the summer holiday season, the tourist heart of this "world class" holiday resort was red bloodied again, with the execution of a hammock Drug dealer identified as Rosendo Canché Canché (a) "El Manotas," for wearing prosthesis in the right hand, perpetrated by assassins on Thursday night, when thousands of visitors between foreigners and nationals crowded the emblematic Fifth Avenue, letting you glimpse the Incapacity and / or protection to the organized crime of the director general of Public Safety and Traffic, Juan Martín Rodríguez Olvera and his director of the Tourist Police, Pedro Arturo Ramírez del Angel of the PAN-PRD change government, chaired by Mayor Maria Cristina Torres Gómez.
Around 20: 00 hours, the 35-year-old guy who disguised the drug sale with the sale of woven bracelets with the engraved name was standing next to his exhibitor on Fifth Avenue between the 10th and 12th streets, opposite the Hostal MX , And at the side of the restaurant 100 percent natural, when a pair of hit men approached one of whom shot twice in the chest, putting at risk the physical integrity and the life of the tourists, which again damages Gravely the image of the destination in the international and national scope, because just 18 days ago and street of the place in the den "La Vaquita", a trio of assassins intended to commit a triple execution, because only one died.
The corpse of "El Manotas" who wore white shirt with blue, Black pants and flip-flops, the 30th executed in 2017, under the PAN-PRD alliance, was lying face up, before the eyes of hundreds of vacationers, and the Tourist Police to cover up the incapacity and / or complicity of Its director general of Public Safety and Traffic, and the director of his corporation, aggressively and with threats to detain reporters and onlookers, were violently evicted to cordon off the scene of the crime 100 meters around, placing the tape in the streets 10 and 12; However, the settlement of accounts between rival gangs of organized crime was being watched by thousands of people around the world, as the mostly foreign tourists had already uploaded it to social networks.
The shots caused dread among the visitors, Who gave part to the number of emergencies 911, reason why the private ambulance Costamed was sent to attend to who had been victim of the shots; However, they could not do anything, because he had already died, while the police arrived at the place, only cordoned off the area and evicted reporters and inquisitors, later joined by the Federal Police, who showed total complicity or incapacity because In charge of surveillance on Fifth Avenue, which is why they are under suspicion of protecting criminal groups.
When the death of Rosendo Canché Canché (a) "El Manotas" was confirmed, the Attorney General's Office (FGE) was given, which is why crime experts and police officers were brought to the crime scene Ministerial of Investigation"
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Old news? I think for the average tourist looking to do some research, wouldn't think "eh, old news".
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Old news? I think for the average tourist looking to do some research, wouldn't think "eh, old news".
Old news compared to today's news and FAKE NEWS.
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Al, this guy has been around before. His wife was a mess. I think he is soon for your ignore list.
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Yup, sweep under a rug.
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Yup, sweep under a rug.
What do you want us to say?
There was a drug related murder on 5th Avenue that had nothing to do with The Tequila Barrel.
There. On top of the rug.
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Although I am very tired of the many exaggerated and panicked posts here and elsewhere, I will say it IS a concern to me that the report the OP cited is "old" news. That sounds like the definition of a trend..or at least a new "direction" - or transition from a period when we didn't read of these events in the US media...

We have friends who are excited to stay with us soon and visit Playa for the first time, and these incidents are being widely reported. Some reports are accurate while some are biased and incomplete, but social media is being flooded with blogs from tourists witnessing these events, ergo our friends asking about the safety here.
They will certainly come to enjoy the rest of the RM, but we have to be honest with them so they can decide if they feel safe on the street or they just want to experience the beauty of the area around Playa.
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Well said Ron!
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That sounds like the definition of a trend..or at least a new "direction"
Trend???

That is exactly what my friends and I were discussing last night. Each of us has lived here for 15-25 years. There have been 4-5 major criminal events in the HEART of PDC tourist zone since January. None of us can remember when there were this many incidents in such a short time period.
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I got at least a half dozen texts/emails from friends about the brother and sister at Iberostar. That story is going mini viral in the States.
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Allow me to present my opinion as a husband and father of two who calls Playa home.

We are not involved in drugs or domestic violence. These are the realities for me and the hundreds of people I run across each day in my job and life. Even for those who work on the 5th, the odds are astronomical that drug violence would touch those not involved in the drug trade.

Today, traffic is lighter because the schools are out. People wait in line to catch their bus to the AI that employs them. Tourists have been coming in the ADO and on the highway all weekend. The shooting on 5th gets a mention here and there but usually with a "rata" or two included in the conversation. No one is changing their behavior. In short, life goes on. A lot more people flipping out over this on the internet than on the streets.

Of course, I will be called a "cheerleader", "apologist" or whatever but, like I said, I have a lot more on the line (my family) here than those of you who are simply questioning whether or not to change your vacation plans. Before the accusations of economic self-interest arise, I work in the Mexican economy not the dollar one. While lower tourist numbers would probably lower our student body, it would not change my income. We've been through Wilma, the bird flu and other violence scares before. Some of us described the damage of Wilma first-hand and were called "liars" or accused of covering up the "complete devestation" of Playa that they had read about in their local newsrag. When we mentioned that people might want to consider science during the bird flu, we were accused of downplaying the plague. It is nothing new to be given shit for trying to help but we still do it. The truth matters.

My kids will be out playing today, my wife will visit her friends and probably go to Mass and I will work a double shift coz that's what we do. The only time I will think about dead drug dealers is when I check PI.
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Appreciate your viewpoint, and sure life goes on - what else can you do?
We're not "simply questioning whether or not to change [our] vacation plans" like many on the TA forum as we also own a home near Playa. Unfortunately it's bigger than that.
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Although I am very tired of the many exaggerated and panicked posts here and elsewhere, I will say it IS a concern to me that the report the OP cited is "old" news. That sounds like the definition of a trend..or at least a new "direction" - or transition from a period when we didn't read of these events in the US media...

A couple things. This article is "old news" in the context of this website because this murder was discussed weeks ago, and then again recently in the past few days. OP then shows up and posts it as if it were something new in the context of his drama-queen-ness.


Trends are not defined by high profile events, they are defined by numbers and stats. (of course high profile events can cause disproportionate responses, which are often more harmful than the original event)
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A couple things. This article is "old news" in the context of this website because this murder was discussed weeks ago, and then again recently in the past few days. OP then shows up and posts it as if it were something new in the context of his drama-queen-ness.


Trends are not defined by high profile events, they are defined by numbers and stats. (of course high profile events can cause disproportionate responses, which are often more harmful than the original event)
More accurately, trends are defined as a general direction in which something is developing or changing, or a new correlation gleaned from data, if you will, and comprised of instances (or inferences when necessary). There is a noted rise in the NUMBER of reported violent murders in Playa centro and that's why I used the term, not because of any high profile events. I monitor trends daily as part of my statistical analyses, and although I don't have historical data (numbers) in regards to this topic, I "see" a rise. We've only been visiting Playa for 15 years and have only that historical background to reference, but there's no question in my mind it is now trending upward based on our time there.

I really didn't see any "drama-queen-ness" like in many other threads, and the "old news" reference is obvious, but because it is old news that is the problem.
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