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Old 08-07-2017   #1 (permalink)
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This is going to be a big deal in our hemisphere, and while the story may be accelerating, it is far from over. Asylum seekers from Venezuela to Mexico are already 4 times greater than in all of 2016.

Venezuelan asylum seekers in Mexico surge as crisis deepens


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MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Venezuela's deepening political and economic crisis has provoked a surge of asylum seekers to Mexico this year, government figures show, with applications to stay in Mexico setting a record pace.

During just the first six months of this year, 1,420 Venezuelans have sought asylum in Mexico, a nearly four-fold jump compared to the 361 total Venezuelan asylum applicants for all of 2016.

No Venezuelans applied for asylum in Mexico in 2014 or 2015.

"It's not normal for so many Venezuelans to come here," Socorro Flores, Mexico deputy foreign minister for Latin America and the Caribbean, told Reuters in an interview.

Venezuelans made up 21 percent of total asylum seekers in Mexico during the first half of this year, compared to just 4 percent during the same period in 2016.
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This is going to be a big deal in our hemisphere, and while the story may be accelerating, it is far from over. Asylum seekers from Venezuela to Mexico are already 4 times greater than in all of 2016.

Venezuelan asylum seekers in Mexico surge as crisis deepens
Yes, it is a big deal and quickly becoming a humanitarian crisis. My brother's family hosted a young Venezuelan lady as an exchange student a few years ago and we have kept in contact with her- she's one of the lucky ones, she has been able to immigrate to Mexico. Also, one of my daughter's friends from school is from Venezuela and her extended family is sending their children here to live with her family. And those are just a couple of instances, there are so many more. The people that have the resources to do so are getting the heck out.

Now, I am tempted to say the sh*te show in Venezuela is another socialist "success story," but far be it from me to make a thread political.

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Socialism running it's natural course. Liberal's thought it was the greatest thing since apple pie when Chavez started it.

It's what all liberal's keep voting for here. So I don't understand the thread.

Surely Mexico won't be RACIST and turn them away they will surely open their arm's and give them everything.. Right..

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We have had many Venezuelan immigrants in this town for a few years. The ones I know had enough money to get out before the shit really hit the fan. They kind of remind me of the Cuban exiles in Miami, except younger.
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Thanks PDS2, for that info.

I am not as interested in calling VZ a failure of a mixed econ that leans toward socialism and authoritarianism as I am in seeing what happens in winding down the government and moving toward a democratic mixed economy that maybe leans a bit more to the right.

I remember when OAS states put troops into the Dominican Republic in 1965 (if I remember correctly, one of you can correct me if I am wrong). That would likely be a better model to use than some that are available - but none of the options look very good.
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And here we go again.....
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And here we go again.....
If, as a nation, you fail to recognize the cause of your problems you will be hard-pressed to solve them. To think that the socialist kleptocracy that is Venezuela today has no impact on the life of the people is absurd, a position that can only be held by a dyed-in-the-wool progressive. To claim that Venezuela has a mixed economy leaning towards socialism and authoritarianism is equally ridiculous (tell that to the stockholders of the companies nationalized under the previous despot). They are in the state they are in specifically because they heeded the call of Thelxiope to embrace socialism in its worst form, which eventually leads many countries to a fast ruin.
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But the righties think every country in Europe is socialist.
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If, as a nation, you fail to recognize the cause of your problems you will be hard-pressed to solve them. To think that the socialist kleptocracy that is Venezuela today has no impact on the life of the people is absurd, a position that can only be held by a dyed-in-the-wool progressive. To claim that Venezuela has a mixed economy leaning towards socialism and authoritarianism is equally ridiculous (tell that to the stockholders of the companies nationalized under the previous despot). They are in the state they are in specifically because they heeded the call of Thelxiope to embrace socialism in its worst form, which eventually leads many countries to a fast ruin.
That was a response to my post?
Whatever, dude.
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But the righties think every country in Europe is socialist.
Some even think Canada is a socialist country.
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But the righties think every country in Europe is socialist.
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If, as a nation, you fail to recognize the cause of your problems you will be hard-pressed to solve them. To think that the socialist kleptocracy that is Venezuela today has no impact on the life of the people is absurd, a position that can only be held by a dyed-in-the-wool progressive. To claim that Venezuela has a mixed economy leaning towards socialism and authoritarianism is equally ridiculous (tell that to the stockholders of the companies nationalized under the previous despot). They are in the state they are in specifically because they heeded the call of Thelxiope to embrace socialism in its worst form, which eventually leads many countries to a fast ruin.
I am pretty sure he was referring to the downward spiral of any political thread on this website. Of which, you obliged with rapidity.

What is old is new again. ~100-165 years ago, it was the Republicans who were called communists or socialists.

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Not a very good responce to my post.
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Not a very good responce to my post.
I'm surprised you could even see that cartoon on that little Obamaphone screen of yours.

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