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Old 08-17-2017   #61 (permalink)
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For example, I think I am smarter and more rational that a person who believes in a Young Earth and that the dinosaurs were a hoax or that the moon landing was a hoax. I believe I am smarter and more rational and a better critical thinker than they are because I AM.
Thank God for the wink, I thought you were serious. You forgot to add "a person who believes a man (anatomically, genetically, hormonally) is really a woman because he thinks he is...
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This judge seems to agree with Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gov-remov...-politics.html

"How can future generations learn if we're going to erase history? That's disgusting," he said. "They should study their history — they don't even know the history of this country and they are trying to take monuments down. Listen, whether we like it or not, this is what our history is."
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Thank God for the wink, I thought you were serious. You forgot to add "a person who believes a man (anatomically, genetically, hormonally) is really a woman because he thinks he is...

I winked because I was certain, and very serious- the wink was for pure cocky effect.

It is totally and quantitatively the factual truth that a person who believes the official and agreed-upon explanation for the origin of the earth is more educated and intelligent than someone who thinks the earth is 6000 (ish) years old. The latter is either very uneducated (or poorly so) on the topic, or is exhibiting willful blindness.

Your comment trying to link the above with transgender issues is strange. Why are you trying to muddy things? People are either male or females, genetically. Some men feel they really should be female and some women feel they are truly male. Whatever the reason behind it, biological/hormonal or emotional/mental- who cares? People feel how they feel.
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Your comment trying to link the above with transgender issues is strange. Why are you trying to muddy things? People are either male or females, genetically. Some men feel they really should be female and some women feel they are truly male. Whatever the reason behind it, biological/hormonal or emotional/mental- who cares? People feel how they feel.
I got it. Science.
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I got it. Science.
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Not sure what you mean here?
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I winked because I was certain, and very serious- the wink was for pure cocky effect.
That gave me a chuckle

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Well since we are talking science

Obama’s viral tweet is wrong: Research shows babies are totally racist

Infants have to be carefully taught not to hate things different than them, instead of the other way around

In what soon became the world’s most liked tweet, former president Barack Obama this week responded to a white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Virginia by posting a famous quote from South African leader Nelson Mandela.


“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion,” reads the quote, which is pulled from Mandela’s 1994 autobiography, Long Walk to Freedom.


Two subsequent tweets then finish the quote, “people must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love. For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.”


The quote is a nice sentiment, but it doesn’t quite line up with science. According to a growing body of infant research, racism is often a default setting for babies. Tolerance, not racism, is what needs to be hammered into young minds.


“Parents do not teach children to be biased,” said Kang Lee, a human development researcher at the University of Toronto.



Lee said that while a racist parent can exploit a child’s innate biases, most children will organically begin to dismiss other races soon after their birth.


Mandela was correct in that no baby is born with inherent prejudices. But at around six months, the average infant will automatically begin to distrust anything that looks and sounds different than their parents.





“Because most of us are born into monoracial environments we start to show preferences for own-race individuals, and then we start to show biases,” he said.



The baby begins to associate positive things, such as happy music, with their own race. Sad music gets associated with other races. Foreign languages and accents, meanwhile, sound scary and unfamiliar.


“If they hear English, they prefer English — they don’t like people who speak French,” said Lee.


Much of Lee’s research has focused on tracking the eye movements of young children to gauge their racial preference. A June study exposed infants to images of ethnically diverse faces, and discovered that the babies spent most of their time looking at the faces that most resembled their parents.


“Caucasian infants look longer at Caucasian faces than at other-race ones,” it read, adding “when the same Caucasian and Asian faces are shown to Asian three-month-olds … they look more at the Asian faces.”


Documented in numerous other studies around the world, it’s been called the Other Race Effect, the inability of infants to distinguish the faces of ethnicities they aren’t used to.


Spontaneous outpourings of childhood racial bigotry can sometimes emerge on the first day of preschool. In a February article in Today’s Parent, a Toronto parent expressed horror that her four-year-old son stopped playing with black children and declared his sudden dislike for NHLer P.K. Subban.


“He had been obsessed with P.K. since age two. Suddenly, he refused to wear his P.K. jersey or sleep with his P.K. doll,” said the mother, whose name was not used in the story.


Another of Lee’s tests exposed seven-month-olds to a video of a human face that would gaze at different corners of the screen, after which pleasing images of animals would appear in those corners.


Across the board, babies were more likely to trust the face’s “predictions” if it matched their own race — even if the faces were wrong.


Of course, the outcomes of these kinds of tests are much different for babies who grew up around other races.


An illuminating 2006 study out of Tel-Aviv University exposed three-month-olds to a gallery of black and white faces. Caucasian Israelis favoured white faces and African Ethiopians favoured black faces. However, Israeli Ethiopian babies — who lived in predominantly white surroundings — showed no preference for either.


“Early preferences for own-race faces may contribute to race-related biases later in life,” read the study.


Lee has been trying for 10 years to gauge the implicit biases of babies from mixed-race households, but even in Toronto, Lee’s lab has not been able to recruit enough mixed-race babies to study.


Raising a child free of racism is generally a simple matter of getting the children accustomed to other races. Lee compared it to how sushi gained a hold on the North American palate.

Critically, said Lee, the children must never be told that the figures they’re seeing are a different race than them.


A white child should be exposed to public figures like Barack Obama, for instance, but without parents explicitly specifying that Obama is a black man.


“If you do that, you actually increase the racial biases, even if you’re talking about positive things — this is the mistake we’ve been making,” Lee said.


In a recent study, Lee and fellow researchers tested the theory on children in a Chinese preschool.


In one test, children were asked to look at non-Chinese faces and match one of the faces with a portrait they were provided.. In another, children were asked simply to sort the non-Chinese faces by “white” and “black.”


“Individuation training significantly reduced Chinese children’s implicit racial bias against Blacks and Whites, but mere exposure did not,” the study found.


Mandela’s quote was taken from a section of his autobiography that describes his inauguration following South Africa’s first free elections after decades of apartheid. Even during his 27-year imprisonment, Mandela said that he never doubted such a day would come.


“I always knew that deep down in every heart there is mercy and generosity,” he wrote.


This sentiment is indeed finding footing in science.


At Yale University’s Infant Cognition Center — run by Saskatchewan-raised researcher Karen Wynn — tests keep showing that babies are inherently moral beings who understand the difference between right and wrong.


The only trick is getting those babies to show kindness to the babies who don’t look like them.


As Paul Bloom, a collaborator with the centre wrote in a lengthy piece for The New York Times, “our initial moral sense appears to be biased toward our own kind.”
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So, you have gone from the middle party to attempts to explain racism with science.

Pivot much?
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Science tells us how old the earth is (within an acceptable margin of error) and science tells us how to determine. It is equally silly to argue that the earth is 6000 years old as it is to argue that how you feel determines your sex. Science.
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So, you have gone from the middle party to attempts to explain racism with science.

Pivot much?
I just posted an article relating racism to science. Unlike you I can form my own opinion and beliefs . Unlike you I do not think everything on the internet is the gospel
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I just posted an article relating racism to science. Unlike you I can form my own opinion and beliefs . Unlike you I do not think everything on the internet is the gospel
The thing you posted sure was not
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Science tells us how old the earth is (within an acceptable margin of error) and science tells us how to determine. It is equally silly to argue that the earth is 6000 years old as it is to argue that how you feel determines your sex. Science.

Ah. I now see what you mean.

Except that bolded bit? Not what I said.

I said people are genetically either male or female. That's science. Are some people also genetically trans? I'm not sure, frankly I don't know much about it and that's because the issue doesn't really affect me personally. If someone is male and identifies as a female, I don't know why they feel that way-and I don't believe it matters. They aren't hurting me.
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Ah. I now see what you mean.

Except that bolded bit? Not what I said.

I said people are genetically either male or female. That's science. Are some people also genetically trans? I'm not sure, frankly I don't know much about it and that's because the issue doesn't really affect me personally. If someone is male and identifies as a female, I don't know why they feel that way-and I don't believe it matters. They aren't hurting me.
No, I didn't mean you said it. I meant is gets said just like the 6000 year old Earth gets said. That was, I believe, tmc's point. I am pretty much a live and let live kind of guy but this idea of how you feel determing your sex has become somewhat of a danger to society, especially with kids. Parents givng their kids different types of drugs, such as testosterone blockers and claiming that their 6-year olds know what sex they feel they want to be is kind of high on my child abuse list. They wanted a boy but got a girl. No problem, we will just raise her as a him. Stuff like that. Much more dangerous, IMHO than someone who believes people rode on the backs of dinosaurs.
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Just watched sharpton the biggest money grabbing idiot of all time.

Now he wants all Lincoln Memorials and Monuments taken down.

These left snowflakes need to be stopped,or everything from our history will be destroyed.
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Thank God Trump is in the Whitehouse. Time for law and order to be restored.

Looks like a big snowflake meltdown coming.
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