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Old 08-23-2017   #1 (permalink)
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Another shooting on 5th??

Just read on another blog that there has been another shooting on 5th Avenue and 20th. A man was shot in the head after being attacked in a clothing store. Has anyone else heard about this? This is all getting out of control, if this is true.
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Keep us updated.

Thinking more and more about visiting my old haunts with all this senseless violence in the heart of tourist area.
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The pictures and video are on Semanario Playa News. I attached a link. Hope it works. If not, just go to the site.

https://www.facebook.com/Semanario-P...8936428242690/
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I try to look on he bright side. Looks like on pace for about 270 murders in Quintana Roo for the year. 1.36 million population. So less than 20 murders per 100K population. About the same as Cincinnati. And that does not even take into consideration almost 10 million visitors coming to QR per year. So with those statistics I don't even know why they are putting out warnings. How many of the murders this year have been tourists? Doesn't seem like hardly any.
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I try to look on he bright side. Looks like on pace for about 270 murders in Quintana Roo for the year. 1.36 million population. So less than 20 murders per 100K population. About the same as Cincinnati. And that does not even take into consideration almost 10 million visitors coming to QR per year. So with those statistics I don't even know why they are putting out warnings. How many of the murders this year have been tourists? Doesn't seem like hardly any.
Bright side? Wow...Playa is under siege by worldwide media for the shootings this year and the illicit alcohol.
Doesn't get much better that this to convince friends to change their minds about visiting the area for the first time.

We have had as many shootings in our small US city this year but they are not in public places and are not a danger to residents and others. It's hard to minimize the potential danger to visitors with the Playa shootings this year, and the news and various forums are reporting the violence on a daily basis and the hype is tremendous from the "Don't go to Mexico" folks...

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Quick summary: at the store named Psylo, targeted hit, drug dealer, he lived.

EDIT: Not a drug dealer but retaliation.

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I try to look on he bright side. Looks like on pace for about 270 murders in Quintana Roo for the year. 1.36 million population. So less than 20 murders per 100K population. About the same as Cincinnati. And that does not even take into consideration almost 10 million visitors coming to QR per year. So with those statistics I don't even know why they are putting out warnings. How many of the murders this year have been tourists? Doesn't seem like hardly any.
These numbers are meaningless, really.

What's meaningFUL is: Are the shootings in Cincinnati happening where you and your family might be walking/shopping, normally? If they are, you're certainly going to avoid those areas, no?

A clothing store on 5th and 20th is certainly a place I or my family members might be after dinner in Playa. No, the tourists aren't the targets of this drug war for control of 5th, but do people want to be in the middle of it on vacation?? Would YOU? There's no way to know who/where the targets are, right? We aren't privy to the Cartels' movements...but we do know these things are happening in the HEART of the tourist area.

What it means is that there are many, many other places to vacation, and people may very well choose to go elsewhere. To think otherwise, or to use raw statistics to say that it's not likely to be YOU who will be shot (which is true) - just doesn't do it for everyone.
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Keep us updated.

Thinking more and more about visiting my old haunts with all this senseless violence in the heart of tourist area.
I agree Loomis.
I am trying to put this in perspective and I realize most of these events are targeted and drug related, but it still gets one thinking.
It just starts to ruin some the good vibes we have always had for the place.
When I have to reassure my wife that does bother me a bit.
I am well aware of the fact that the city is growing, that things happen everywhere, that statistically it is still safe compared to (insert other cities here), and that I am likely taking a bigger chance with my life riding a collectivo ( I can't prove that so don't anyone start asking for stats) then walking down 5th. But it just sucks that this violence is becoming much more frequent in the tourist areas. I long for the days, not long ago, that QRoo was not on the "warnings list". Hope things settle down..... and soon.
BTW....I still love the place, we are still coming for a month, I am not changing my routine, and we are going to have a great time I am certain.

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Yes, we have the same concerns, and of course the statistics are meaningless to anyone living or visiting Playa. Quoting that is akin to hiding one's head in the sand, at least to anyone who really cares about the impact on Playa.

We plan to be living near Playa soon after having a place built. When we chose to live there over several other places in the Carib and Mexico we felt extremely safe in and around Playa. This blatant gunfire in broad daylight and in the tourist areas of Cancun and Playa was not even something to be imagined, let alone feared, and the cartel activities were hardly discussed on these forums. Since the BMI shootings in January the continued shootings have become a part of Playa, and most of us are in a different place, just hoping something somehow changes the current trend and we can go back to what it was...

But that looks like a pipe dream, I'm afraid; the change has come, and I don't see any return to the Playa we felt safer in...There's always hope though...
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Certainly it's something to be aware of so you can take common sense precautions and maybe avoid Fifth more than usual, especially late at night. But generally speaking, tourists' safety is really no less than it has been before they issued the new warnings- tourists aren't targeted.

I'm hopeful and confident that this turf dispute or whatever is happening right now will calm down and things will return to 'normal' for Playa.


Years of going to Zihua has maybe made me a bit more jaded- it has had warnings for years and things go up and down constantly- there are disputes and incidents happen then things quiet down again. There have been very few incidents in the actual 'tourist areas'-and none involving tourists. I've never had a problem there or seen anything disturbing, so I am taking this warning for Q Roo with a grain of salt.

It really was just a matter of time that Cabo and PDC and Cancun had some problems.

I am staying on Isla this trip, not PDC- although I wouldn't have a problem staying in Playa, I'd likely avoid Fifth more and not be out late at all.
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I agree Loomis.
I am trying to put this in perspective and I realize most of these events are targeted and drug related, but it still gets one thinking.
It just starts to ruin some the good vibes we have always had for the place.
When I have to reassure my wife that does bother me a bit.
I am well aware of the fact that the city is growing, that things happen everywhere, that statistically it is still safe compared to (insert other cities here), and that I am likely taking a bigger chance with my life riding a collectivo ( I can't prove that so don't anyone start asking for stats) then walking down 5th. But it just sucks that this violence is becoming much more frequent in the tourist areas. I long for the days, not long ago, that QRoo was not on the "warnings list". Hope things settle down..... and soon.
BTW....I still love the place, we are still coming for a month, I am not changing my routine, and we are going to have a great time I am certain.
we will all have an awesome winter old friend,,glad the wife didnt kill you on those water skis
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Playa del Carmen to get security cameras and more police officers - The Yucatan Times
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Old 08-24-2017   #14 (permalink)
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This all makes me so incredibly sad. Hubby and I loved Playa and visited every year for a number of years. We decided to move on after our last visit because the rampant overdevelopment and noise, but now the increasing violence in tourist areas just cements it for us.

Next trip we are splitting our time between Akumal and Isla Mujeres. Hopefully the violence won't spread there too.
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Active shooter situation currently in the tourist area of Charleston, South Carolina.
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