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Old 09-22-2017   #16 (permalink)
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Completely apples to oranges. You have central air and probably cool whenever you're home to several rooms. This was cooling 1 150 sq foot bedroom on 600kw to 24c for 8ish hours a day. If I had the entire 800sq foot condo cooled like that I'd be well over 1500kw a month. I think I will map my consumption for 24 hours replace 1 AC unit remap and if there is significant enough savings replace the rest at this point.
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Completely apples to oranges. You have central air and probably cool whenever you're home to several rooms. This was cooling 1 150 sq foot bedroom on 600kw to 24c for 8ish hours a day. If I had the entire 800sq foot condo cooled like that I'd be well over 1500kw a month. I think I will map my consumption for 24 hours replace 1 AC unit remap and if there is significant enough savings replace the rest at this point.
That's a fantastic idea! And after you have done that you could also write a PhD thesis about the whole thing!!!!!
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Installed 3 new LG dual inverter plus units (the plus is for wifi remote connectivity and management) and a new Samsung inverter fridge and the savings in electricity is staggering.

All 3 A/C running 24/7 the main bigger unit runs at 25°C on energy saving mode and the other 2 bedroom units run on the AI (artificial intelligence) mode. This is what I found to be the most cost effective combination while keeping my unit fresh. The app tells me the the real time, weekly and monthly energy usage for each unit. This is how I was able to figure out the most economical settings.

last CFE bill was 865 pesos.
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Installed 3 new LG dual inverter plus units (the plus is for wifi remote connectivity and management) and a new Samsung inverter fridge and the savings in electricity is staggering.

All 3 A/C running 24/7 the main bigger unit runs at 25°C on energy saving mode and the other 2 bedroom units run on the AI (artificial intelligence) mode. This is what I found to be the most cost effective combination while keeping my unit fresh. The app tells me the the real time, weekly and monthly energy usage for each unit. This is how I was able to figure out the most economical settings.

last CFE bill was 865 pesos.
Playa Joe,

Thank you for this data I really appreciate it. So how many kilowatt would that be if you don't mind me asking? And how does that compare to your older units?

I was definitely looking at the LG units there's the inverter plus also apparently they even have an even more power sipping model the LG hyper inverter with a SEER value of 25.5 vs the inverter plus of 20.7 (which is still excellent). However I haven't found anyone in PDC yet with the Hyper Inverter and only one place in Cancun that could order it in from DF. Again if you don't mind me asking where did you end up getting your inverter plus models? I'd love to do some price comparative shopping when I'm back in January.

I've seen the LG's have the really nice internet based remotes. I'm a bit of an Home automation junkie and have automated my legacy units with some Flair pucks www.flair.co which allows me to control my units from anywhere. I should really do a post on some of the stuff I've did around that in case anyone is interested.

I was up on the roof of my condo and the fins of the core of the AC appear to be corroded. I believe the efficiency of my unit is probably bordering on the terrible right now. I'm going to give them all a good hose down in January see where I sit but I think there's some new AC units in the near future.

Thanks again for this information.
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Installed 3 new LG dual inverter plus units (the plus is for wifi remote connectivity and management) and a new Samsung inverter fridge and the savings in electricity is staggering.

All 3 A/C running 24/7 the main bigger unit runs at 25°C on energy saving mode and the other 2 bedroom units run on the AI (artificial intelligence) mode. This is what I found to be the most cost effective combination while keeping my unit fresh. The app tells me the the real time, weekly and monthly energy usage for each unit. This is how I was able to figure out the most economical settings.

last CFE bill was 865 pesos.
If you don't mind my asking...how big is your place and how many levels. Trying to get a comparison with mine. Thanks.
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Installed 3 new LG dual inverter plus units (the plus is for wifi remote connectivity and management) and a new Samsung inverter fridge and the savings in electricity is staggering.

All 3 A/C running 24/7 the main bigger unit runs at 25°C on energy saving mode and the other 2 bedroom units run on the AI (artificial intelligence) mode. This is what I found to be the most cost effective combination while keeping my unit fresh. The app tells me the the real time, weekly and monthly energy usage for each unit. This is how I was able to figure out the most economical settings.

last CFE bill was 865 pesos.
What had it been previously?
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https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx...seers-wifi-_JM

Found this 2 ton, 24 SEER, wi fi, Carrier unit on Mercado Libre. The write up seems to say that this unit will reduce electric consumption by 60%.

"These mini splits inverter have the ability to reduce your light consumption to more than 60% so if you have a business, office, local, establishment or even in your own home, you are paying a lot of light!" (Google translated)
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https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx...seers-wifi-_JM

Found this 2 ton, 24 SEER, wi fi, Carrier unit on Mercado Libre. The write up seems to say that this unit will reduce electric consumption by 60%.

"These mini splits inverter have the ability to reduce your light consumption to more than 60% so if you have a business, office, local, establishment or even in your own home, you are paying a lot of light!" (Google translated)
Let me know when someone figures that one out. So far, I have seen a savings of around 20%. Nothing to sneeze at but with price increases from last year, my bill is running around the same.

As it takes 3 consecutive billing cycles (six months) of being under the kw usage that puts one into the highest price bracket, I am leery of anyone that claims they see drastic drops in their bills. Unless, that is, they were never in the excess range to begin with. I don't know many people with more than one AC that doesn't fall into that category, though. We only have one and have been in CFE hell for years. I bought an inverter trying to get out. Haven't had it long enough yet but these cool nights are helping for this period.
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Just wanted to bring this back up again. Not really around the power question but more around usability. Many of the new mini splits are coming with WIFI connectivity for smart phone control. I've mainly been looking at the Carrier and the LG but looking at the feedback in the app store neither app is getting raving reviews.

Just curious if anyone here has either the Carrier or LG with the apps installed and get a bit deeper feedback? If I'm spending a couple grand on new AC units I don't want them let down by crappy/barely functional apps. If you have another vendor with WIFI connectivity I'd be interested in hearing about your experience as well.

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I switched my AC units over this week. I have some hard numbers to report. So my old AC units if I had them all on at the same time the draw was 3600w the new units that's reduced to 2800w. 23% reduction in power.. Where these units really shine is the longer you keep them on maintaining a particular temperature I was playing with them for all 3 units to hold/maintain 20c in my condo was about 460w. Where the non non inverted flip on and off and consume significantly more.

I ended up getting the LG vp122cr and vp242cr both 20 seer units. Best price I found was surprisingly Liverpool.

The units also have washable filters and if they become too bad there are replacement 3m filters available.

The units I also chose can also be controlled via apps for Android and Apple. As for security LG has some issues in the past but have engaged Checkpoint to help secure the devices. I went deeper into that reading and have done many of the right thing's in that respect. If something does come up the units can be upgraded to address any future threats .

I'm happy with my choice and recommend them to someone looking at a similar device.
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teebee, how much were they if you don't mind sharing?

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I ended up getting the LG vp122cr and vp242cr both 20 seer units. Best price I found was surprisingly Liverpool.
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Whatever the price was on the website. But for all 3 units it was about 47000 pesos
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