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Old 12-03-2017   #16 (permalink)
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You have no ****ing idea why I think what I think or how I form my opinions.
You make it obvious here by constantly posting fake shit.
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You made it political here, and that is a fact. We all feel for what happened to the young lady.

I do not think my local police force should be agents for ICE.
Wow- even one with a criminal history ? Who has been deported multiple times and with previous felonies ?

And can you understand why some citizens want tougher immigration laws ? and would you support them - based on this case alone ?
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Wow- even one with a criminal history ? Who has been deported multiple times and with previous felonies ?

And can you understand why some citizens want tougher immigration laws ? and would you support them - based on this case alone ?
I gave you my answer already. Once is enough.
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So for Bruce it's more important to not cooperate with ICE and let illegals stay in the country than it is to protect innocent lives.
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Refer to post #16.
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Obviously, I am not a lawyer. But, how was he not at least found guilty of manslaughter?
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So for Bruce it's more important to not cooperate with ICE and let illegals stay in the country than it is to protect innocent lives.
Unfortunately, for the rest of us, they see this is a way to build their party's base, since that party has limited appeal outside of a few urban centers in a few states. When my MIL legally immigrated here, my wife and I signed a document pledging to support her. I wonder if Bruce and those of similar beliefs would be willing to sponsor those who are here illegally?
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Unfortunately, for the rest of us,
Unfortunately for you, you are wrong as usual.
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Obviously, I am not a lawyer. But, how was he not at least found guilty of manslaughter?
Sadly, it seems like the defense did a better job than the prosecution.
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Sadly, it seems like the defense did a better job than the prosecution.
You're probably sadder that the Badgers lost.
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You're probably sadder that the Badgers lost.
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More conservative cities and states should just ignore those federal laws they find to be inconvenient to their political beliefs and claim this as precedent if a liberal administration threatens to withhold funding.

I believe that one of the few responsibilities that the federal government should have is immigration control. If each state (or city) is allowed to create its own laws, it would lead to chaos. Which, not coincidentally, is pretty much the case now. Those places are giving the middle finger to the federal government and the rest of the citizens in the US who voted for representatives who made federal immigration law. Not too much unlike the South during the pre-Civil War days. They should be held responsible for their actions or inaction.

We should also reform immigration laws but that is another thread. Right now, the laws should be followed and those who willfully flaunt them should be charged as criminals. That means mayors, governors, city councilmen or police chiefs who order others to not comply.
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More conservative cities and states should just ignore those federal laws they find to be inconvenient to their political beliefs and claim this as precedent if a liberal administration threatens to withhold funding.

I believe that one of the few responsibilities that the federal government should have is immigration control. If each state (or city) is allowed to create its own laws, it would lead to chaos. Which, not coincidentally, is pretty much the case now. Those places are giving the middle finger to the federal government and the rest of the citizens in the US who voted for representatives who made federal immigration law. Not too much unlike the South during the pre-Civil War days. They should be held responsible for their actions or inaction.

We should also reform immigration laws but that is another thread. Right now, the laws should be followed and those who willfully flaunt them should be charged as criminals. That means mayors, governors, city councilmen or police chiefs who order others to not comply.
I agree with all but the first para. But then, I'm sure you were being sarcastic.
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The federal government is free to go after those in state and local government they believe are breaking the law.

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he needs to do some time for this -because if they deport him he will just come back, as he has done countless times before.


I wonder how the jury felt when they found out after the fact about his felonys !

It is odd that all the usual liberal posters are silent on this subject.
What felonies? The 20-year-old misdemeanor marijuana charge was dropped prior to his release from county jail (it's why he was released), and recreational marijuana is now legal in California anyway, making illogical the prosecution of a minor charge (misdemeanor) that was once illegal but now isn't.

The jury correctly found that he did not commit either murder or negligent manslaughter by picking up a gun that was wrapped in cloth and thus unidentifiable as a firearm until it discharged when he picked it up because, not knowing that it was a gun, he mishandled the bundle causing the gun to fire accidentally (and ricochet into Kate Steinle).

His confusing conviction by the same jury of being a felon in possession of a firearm is on shaky ground since he wasn't aware the cloth-wrapped bundle was a gun until he mishandled the bundle causing the gun to fire - if he didn't know it was a firearm when he picked the bundle up he can't very well be charged with being in possession of a firearm that he didn't know existed until it accidentally fired when he mishandled the bundle when he innocently picked it up.
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