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Old 12-28-2017   #1 (permalink)
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Need recommendations for flattening walls

Hi everyone, we are searching a company or individual who can flattened ("smooth") our walls and make them as smooth as.... you know ...

We had someone recommended but he is unable to them in the weeks to come... we enter in our condo on Jan 8th and our kitchen cabinets will be installed on or around the 11th... we would need the 'flattening' to be done before 11th of january.

We have around 60-65 Sq Meters to be flattened...if the price is good... may do the ceiling as well...

Here's a picture of walls to be done... (attached)

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In English, to 'flatten the walls" means to knock them down by running over them with something big, like a bulldozer or an army tank. So, not good for your new condo - and I see no place on your floor plan for a garage to park a bulldozer or tank (although once you've knocked down the walls a good parking spot is just not that important anymore).

I suspect you instead want to smooth the walls by adding a layer of plaster ("masilla") or stucco ("Uniblock" is a common brand name), both of which are finely-powdered cement spread onto the wall with a trowel, although I don't know why this hasn't already been done by the contractor. If this is what you want, there are plenty of people on the forum who know good cement workers (albanils) who can do it for you at the going rate of somewhere between 400-600 pesos/day. Suerte!

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Thanks Beam-eye for your response... do you know a good cement worker (albanil) who can do it for us ? dont you have references ? Thanks again
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Thanks Beam-eye for your response... do you know a good cement worker (albanil) who can do it for us ? dont you have references ? Thanks again
Are the walls painted?
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Are the walls painted?
Unfortunately yes but just a base coat white... we bought in Selvanova Coto 6, the walls are not as straight (actually they are straight...but no finished like we're used to) as walls in 250000$ Us condos... so we would like to have them smoothed out...
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Unfortunately yes but just a base coat white... we bought in Selvanova Coto 6, the walls are not as straight (actually they are straight...but no finished like we're used to) as walls in 250000$ Us condos... so we would like to have them smoothed out...
The paint will probably have to be removed to bare concrete. That’s an arduous task.
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I know ... that's why I,m asking for references... it's no hard job for someone who does that everyday !!! I'm a hardscaper... and everyday I work very very hard... but it is... "business as usual" ...

the question is...

Do you know someone ??? I just need references....
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I have a guy that did some great work resizing door frames and did some smoothing for me. I know he's out of town until 1/4 and couldn't probably hit your time line of 1/11 I think you're going to be hard pressed to find anyone that's good, cheap, fast. I think you're going to have to less one of your constraints slip... (I suggest time no one in Mexico is particularly fast)
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Are the walls painted?
Just curious but the OP's post shows a layout with mostly interior walls that he wants "flattened", are those walls typically concrete/concrete block walls in a typical condo in Playa/Mexico?
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Just curious but the OP's post shows a layout with mostly interior walls that he wants "flattened", are those walls typically concrete/concrete block walls in a typical condo in Playa/Mexico?
Yes.
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Just curious but the OP's post shows a layout with mostly interior walls that he wants "flattened", are those walls typically concrete/concrete block walls in a typical condo in Playa/Mexico?
Good pick-up. Relatively very little frame and dry-wall construction in Mexico - stud and dry wall would not likely support the truly massive weight of the typical Mexican combination roof-ceiling composed of flanged, pre-stressed concrete roof beams (vigas - they look like cement railroad tracks) that support very heavy flanged cement blocks (bovadillas) suspended between the beams (the upward-facing flat surface of the viga's flange supports the downward-facing flat surface of the bovadilla, the two sets of flanges nesting in place by the bovadilla's weight and cemented into place with a thick layer of weld-wire mesh reinforced concrete on top (and a very thin layer of plastered masilla on the interior (ceiling) side. Heavier than hell, really, but it's apparently really strong. A multi-storey building is multiple layers of cement block exterior and interior walls roofed with heavy cement vigas, bovadillas, and cement floors. Heavy stuff. The relatively limited use of frame and dry-wall construction is mostly in commercial buildings as interior office dividers inside the cement exterior/interior load-bearing walls.
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Good pick-up. Relatively very little frame and dry-wall construction in Mexico - stud and dry wall would not likely support the truly massive weight of the typical Mexican combination roof-ceiling composed of flanged, pre-stressed concrete roof beams (vigas - they look like cement railroad tracks) that support very heavy flanged cement blocks (bovadillas) suspended between the beams (the upward-facing flat surface of the viga's flange supports the downward-facing flat surface of the bovadilla, the two sets of flanges nesting in place by the bovadilla's weight and cemented into place with a thick layer of weld-wire mesh reinforced concrete on top (and a very thin layer of plastered masilla on the interior (ceiling) side. Heavier than hell, really, but it's apparently really strong. A multi-storey building is multiple layers of cement block exterior and interior walls roofed with heavy cement vigas, bovadillas, and cement floors. Heavy stuff. The relatively limited use of frame and dry-wall construction is mostly in commercial buildings as interior office dividers inside the cement exterior/interior load-bearing walls.
But you left out the Styrofoam blocks used in the construction here!
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But you left out the Styrofoam blocks used in the construction here!
Right, I did forget about those (oops!). But they're only used for single storey, not multi-storey, buildings. And also for decorative arches and other non-load bearing structures. (I hope)
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Right, I did forget about those (oops!). But they're only used for single storey, not multi-storey, buildings. And also for decorative arches and other non-load bearing structures. (I hope)
No, they are used in most multi-floor buildings around town, to save weight (less concrete) and supposedly for noise insulation. Also, almost every multi-floor building in town uses these Styrofoam blocks during construction.
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No, they are used in most multi-floor buildings around town, to save weight (less concrete) and supposedly for noise insulation. Also, almost every multi-floor building in town uses these Styrofoam blocks during construction.
Yikes!!! I didn't know THAT - (there's a lot I don't know, as I discover daily). So the rooftop swimming pools are supported by styrofoam blocks? Odd - I thought the styrofoam floated on the water, not the other way around. I might never go into another multi-storey building in Playa again - ("No, no, after you - I insist...").
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