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Marijuana and California !

Sales of non-medical marijuana began on Monday, January 1.
• Adults over the age of 21 can buy up to an ounce of marijuana and grow as many as six plants at home without a doctor's letter.
• California has issued temporary licenses to over 40 dispensaries, which allows them to sell non-medical marijuana starting January 1.

The Golden State is about to get a lot greener.

Sales of recreational marijuana began on Monday, January 1, after Californians voted to legalize the drug in the 2016 election. The market's debut brings an end to prohibition in the most populous state, which is now also the biggest legal marijuana market in America.

Adults over the age of 21 can now use, carry, and buy up to an ounce of marijuana for non-medical use, and grow as many as six plants at home, without a doctor's letter.

How can you buy it?

Though it is legal, Golden State tokers won't find marijuana in corner drug stores.

California began issuing temporary licenses to dispensaries — or pot shops — in December that will allow those stores to sell non-medical marijuana. The licenses became valid on January 1.

So far, the state Bureau of Cannabis Control has awarded retail licenses to 42 dispensaries from Eureka to Oakland to San Diego. (There are more than 1,300 dispensaries statewide.) Customers can view a full list of the pot shops that received licenses on the bureau's website.

State rules dictate that marijuana will not be sold between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.

Not everyone in California is on board with the so-called green rush. A review by the Los Angeles Times found that more than 70% of California's counties and cities, including Fresno, Bakersfield, and Anahaim, have moved to ban the sale or cultivation of marijuana.

Thoughts on this ?

I support medical use for chronic pain - but I do think, for many, this may be a gateway drug to other addicitions.

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Sales of non-medical marijuana began on Monday, January 1.
• Adults over the age of 21 can buy up to an ounce of marijuana and grow as many as six plants at home without a doctor's letter.
• California has issued temporary licenses to over 40 dispensaries, which allows them to sell non-medical marijuana starting January 1.

The Golden State is about to get a lot greener.

Sales of recreational marijuana began on Monday, January 1, after Californians voted to legalize the drug in the 2016 election. The market's debut brings an end to prohibition in the most populous state, which is now also the biggest legal marijuana market in America.

Adults over the age of 21 can now use, carry, and buy up to an ounce of marijuana for non-medical use, and grow as many as six plants at home, without a doctor's letter.

How can you buy it?

Though it is legal, Golden State tokers won't find marijuana in corner drug stores.

California began issuing temporary licenses to dispensaries — or pot shops — in December that will allow those stores to sell non-medical marijuana. The licenses became valid on January 1.

So far, the state Bureau of Cannabis Control has awarded retail licenses to 42 dispensaries from Eureka to Oakland to San Diego. (There are more than 1,300 dispensaries statewide.) Customers can view a full list of the pot shops that received licenses on the bureau's website.

State rules dictate that marijuana will not be sold between the hours of 10 p.m. and 6 a.m.

Not everyone in California is on board with the so-called green rush. A review by the Los Angeles Times found that more than 70% of California's counties and cities, including Fresno, Bakersfield, and Anahaim, have moved to ban the sale or cultivation of marijuana.

Thoughts on this ?

I support medical use for chronic pain - but I do think, for many, this may be a gateway drug to other addicitions.
Alcohol is actually much worse. And then there are the pharmaceuticals. Which is even worse than that.

I am in favor of legalizing it. Taxing it. And take away that much of the Underworld ‘s money-making from it. Much like Prohibition just made the Mob money.

Pretty amazing the technology and production methods used in the new legalized marijuana industry. They have quality and analysis results and the likely effects on their products. Impressive.
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I read that up to 15 states might legalize weed in 2018, including a couple of states where that could happen via legislative action
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Just more mood-altering for a country that cannot cope with feelings. Alcohol, weed, coke, heroin, or prescription drugs; it is all just a way to avoid something. Might as well legalize it because the character of the majority of the citizenry is not likely to change. Not that mood-altering is absent in other societies, it is just that the US is the best at offering different options.
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Just more mood-altering for a country that cannot cope with feelings. Alcohol, weed, coke, heroin, or prescription drugs; it is all just a way to avoid something. Might as well legalize it because the character of the majority of the citizenry is not likely to change. Not that mood-altering is absent in other societies, it is just that the US is the best at offering different options.

I have only experienced the effects of alcohol and weed. Never ever had interest in ever trying the others mentioned.

And I know my reason for occasionally enjoying alcohol or weed has nothing to do with not being able to cope with my feelings. Kind of fun.

Some people are addictive and can not control themselves. No moderation or limits. Not sure why they do what they do.
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Just more mood-altering for a country that cannot cope with feelings. Alcohol, weed, coke, heroin, or prescription drugs; it is all just a way to avoid something. Might as well legalize it because the character of the majority of the citizenry is not likely to change. Not that mood-altering is absent in other societies, it is just that the US is the best at offering different options.
Call me cynical but I think a main reason a lot of the states are legalizing marijuana is to raise revenue. Worked in Colorado. Same goes for all the legalized gambling in states. You used to find casino's in Vegas and that shit hole Atlantic City. They are everywhere now. I don't think anyone can make an argument that gambling is good for you but I can see why people might make the argument for marijuana. Personally, I would like to to see less anecdotal evidence of it's health value and more medical studies if claims are going to be made to justify it's use for medicinal reasons.

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Alcohol is actually much worse. And then there are the pharmaceuticals. Which is even worse than that.

I am in favor of legalizing it. Taxing it. And take away that much of the Underworld ‘s money-making from it. Much like Prohibition just made the Mob money.

Pretty amazing the technology and production methods used in the new legalized marijuana industry. They have quality and analysis results and the likely effects on their products. Impressive.
Looks like I may start 2018 agreeing with one of your posts. Although I am still on the fence about legalizing it, at least based on it's "health" value. You are right though, alcohol and prescription drugs are a hell of a lot worse.
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Looks like I may start 2018 agreeing with one of your posts. Although I am still on the fence about legalizing it, at least based on it's "health" value. You are right though, alcohol and prescription drugs are a hell of a lot worse.
Honestly. A legal marijuana industry has more positives going forward than a continuation of black market underworld market.

What is the reason behind keeping it illegal? Why?
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Canada is on the road to legalizing it...but it's (unsurprisingly) been a bumpy road. Supposed to happen later this year, I think.

I don't care either way really- but if I had to choose a 'side' I would say it's a good move. I do think it's stupid for it to be illegal, since so many use it regardless-like alcohol, let's legalize and regulate it, and at least get some tax money from it.

I do not see it as a 'stepping stone' to harder drugs - at least no more than booze can be. Now, prescription Oxy or similar, THAT is a stepping zone. But pot, naw. Most people I know either use it recreationally or used to in the past (the latter is me- I used it a handful of times, didn't do much for me).

I do think the 'health benefits' are largely overblown (just like the negative things are), although it's likely helpful for cancer patients, MS, that type of thing.
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I support medical use for chronic pain - but I do think, for many, this may be a gateway drug to other addicitions.
What? Is this the 1950’s?
Equally so as alcohol is the gateway drug to other addictions?
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Call me cynical but I think a main reason a lot of the states are legalizing marijuana is to raise revenue. Worked in Colorado. Same goes for all the legalized gambling in states. You used to find casino's in Vegas and that shit hole Atlantic City. They are everywhere now. I don't think anyone can make an argument that gambling is good for you but I can see why people might make the argument for marijuana. Personally, I would like to to see less anecdotal evidence of it's health value and more medical studies if claims are going to be made to justify it's use for medicinal reasons.
I'm with you. I don't know if those studies exist ( I suppose some studies are out there). But, I just can't buy into the logic that inhaling smoke into your lungs is good for you! Canabis Oil...OK, but smoking it...just doesn't pass the sniff check.
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I'm with you. I don't know if those studies exist ( I suppose some studies are out there). But, I just can't buy into the logic that inhaling smoke into your lungs is good for you! Canabis Oil...OK, but smoking it...just doesn't pass the sniff check.
I think most people who use it for health benefits don't smoke it, but use it in another form. Or at least they would if they could get good medical marijuana in another form.

Because, you're right, breathing any smoke into your lungs isn't exactly healthy.
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What? Is this the 1950’s?
Equally so as alcohol is the gateway drug to other addictions?
Why is healthy living a 1950s attitude ?

I gave up drinking after my cancer diagnosis - I have seen what it does to people who cant handle it and the health issues from those who over do it. I also lost weight when I gave up drinking as well (that is a good thing to)

I do believe that for some people it is a gateway.

I have never been a fan of smoking (anything) after seeing people I love die from lung cancer. There are studies of smoking and drinking having a negative effect as far as reoccurrence in cancer. After being diagnosed - and having gone thru chemo - it is not a risk I want to take.

But I do believe there are some benefits for chronic or terminal pain. I handle my chronic pain with our the use of medication, taking a more holistic approach. It has served me well.

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I'm with you. I don't know if those studies exist ( I suppose some studies are out there). But, I just can't buy into the logic that inhaling smoke into your lungs is good for you! Canabis Oil...OK, but smoking it...just doesn't pass the sniff check.
Probably not good for you. But a couple of puffs of weed occasionally is probably insignificant. Chronic users would obviously have health concerns. Chronic users of anything generally have Health concerns.

IMO one thing the marijuana industry seems to be doing is producing an organic high quality product that really only takes a puff or two.
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I have no problems with legalizing it (or, at least, decriminalizing it). My point was more general. Americans tend to use a lot of mood-altering substances. I certainly did a lot in the past. These days, I prefer to feel what I feel.
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