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Old 06-12-2007   #761 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ryberg
Really?

Really?!? (what I need here is a "surprise" emoticon that's not like the gasping shock of because I didn't think you were interested in him -- thus my comments that you might want to check out his book and that you might like his ideas or something)Steve
I think Obama handled the "infatuation" stage of his campaign in a very sober, mature fashion. I think his answers to questions in the debates have shown a lot of thought, and I hope the media gives people a chance to process that -- instead of criticizing Obama for not being "outfront" or "macho" enough in his responses, attitudes which I have read recently. I like that he is not an instinctive glad-hander or smiley-face; he is taking his calling seriously -- I like that a lot.

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Originally Posted by ryberg
REALLY?!?!? (Bona fide place to use there. I do not understand the fascination with this guy. He seems... I dunno... like he's too much of a blow-his-own-horn-er, a bit too artificially gung ho in some ways (witness his response re Iraq -- sorry, Roni! ), or something along those lines. Personally I think he'd be more likely to attract votes if he were a bit calmer and quieter or something. Like Obama, maybe.

Also, as Dartay and I were discussing, and as one of the other Republicans (can't remember which one right now) said in the debate, I don't know how compatible his views on abortion in particular are with his party, and thus how electable he is, especially as I don't see any 3rd candidate standing a chance.

Why are you (and you, Mexivoof, if it applies) fascinated by him?

Steve
For Giuliani, he IS running a calmer and quieter campaign! And it's the caliber of his campaign that is giving me reason for pause (in a good way). He has strengths, and he's running on them; and he's not trying to pretend to be someone he's not. He is certainly a decisive leader, and a smart guy. Maybe he has experienced personal growth after going through his cancer treatments, and perhaps finding real love with wife #3. I would like to hear more from him on how he would attack issues other than national security -- domestic policy, energy policy, etc. I would expect some innovative thinking.

As I have said before, all it would take is another terrorist incident on US soil to make the single-issue abortion people irrelevant.

And since I was the one to float the third-party possibility out there, that scenario continues to fascinate me.
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