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Old 06-17-2007   #803 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Just Lucky
I think you did great. I read the same article a couple days ago somewhere else. Great political propaganda trying to exploit and create doubts.
Thanks! That means a lot, coming from someone of your academic/critical leanings (criticism being, as you know, as inevitable as breathing). I even got your references to Thorstein Veblen and the IWW the other day, having ages ago written a (craptacular!) undergraduate honors thesis on Dos Passos' U.S.A. Trilogy.

Anyway, Jacko, I wasn't trying to rain on your parade or anything. And in fairness to that author, I fear that he may not have had so much any overt political bias as he is just following the prevalent trend of highlighting the fear and burying the good news.

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Originally Posted by sctx
no, he appears to be very sincere and honest about his beliefs, that goes alot further w/ me than actual policy stances.......personally, I see Hillary, Edwards, and McCain as saying anything they need to to get votes...ala Bill.....that stuff makes me wanna puke and won't even get me to the polling booth if that's the choices I'm left to deal with
Wow! I would add a number of Republicans in the latter type, as well -- probably more than Democrats, if the truth be told -- but I very much agree with the bolded part.

In fact I mentioned as much in referring to the difference between Clinton's and Obama's responses in the previous debate about whether the world was safer today as a result of Iraq or not, her taking the seemingly safer answer and him the riskier one (regardless of what one happens to feel on the point in question). I would add, though not without caution, that I think specific experience of the type people usually have in mind in such situations is easily and often overrated as a measure of suitability, in the same vein as that comment of yours about actual policy stances.

Geez, that's 1 point I agree with you on and 2 points I agree with Stogey on in just about 3 days, here.

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