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Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul
Actually, I believe in the Government that is spelled out in the Constitution. One that does little, but does what it is supposed to do, well. It all comes down to what is enumerated. Liberals, on the other hand, believe in an all-encompassing State that controls every little detail of life.
So, yeah, you are right.  There is a big divide. Thing is, we have the Founding Fathers on our side. 
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While I appreciate your point of view I think that if one reads what the founding fathers had in mind it would have little to do with the neo-con reality in practice. You mean an "all encompassing state" that tortures people, that takes away peoples basic human rights and listens in on their telephone calls or watches their phone records? A state in which the executive is certain that laws do not apply to him? Give me liberty.