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Old 11-13-2007   #359 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by PlayadelSoul View Post
The whole basis of the science is based on computer models...
That excerpt precisely contradicts any such claim. So did the comments of the government's Susan Solomon when the IPCC report was announced back in February or whenever:

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"The evidence for warming having happened on the planet is unequivocal . . . We can see that in rising air temperatures, we can see it in changes in snow cover in the Northern Hemisphere. We can see it in global sea rise. It's unequivocal," she said.
The over focus on computer modeling seems to be a bogeyman strategy based not only on the questionable but conventional "wisdom" that computers are not to be trusted at all ("They'll screw up anything just royally, you know -- wait till you hear this anecdote, America!") its value in terms of diversion from the simple observation and measuring of physical phenomena and changes which are in fact what seem to make up the basis of this science and most others (and which it would be understandably harder to try to make people doubt too much).

In answer to your other question, I can only throw back the one from before: do you know how many deaths or displaced refugees from coastal areas or other types of global dismay and conflict due to global warming are acceptable?

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