Adios Panchos and Frida Bar - Page 4

**ryberg** · 09-30-2004

It's like the bizarro world version of what happened to Andre Agassi, you know, a worst case scenario where you could imagine how he (Agassi) might have turned out.

Steve

mellory · 09-30-2004

Which is worse, the mullet or the long hair comb-over?

cuffedlinks · 09-30-2004

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Originally Posted by Avalon

How about a giant picture of this in place of Frida?

kinduv looks a little like this:

...who used to look like this:

mellory · 09-30-2004

Is that Gary Glitter? And Pamella whats her name?

STOGEY · 09-30-2004

Well softy and I only ate at two or three places there last year, so there wasn't much to compare with. Anyways what I liked about fridas was not only the food but the atmosphere. Even though pancho was a communist revolutionary who would have had a different view point than I would. I still do like revolutionaries though. I still liked the atmosphere of the place. As far as the food went my palate is not that choosey so I'm not a real critic as far as food goes. We didn't get sick or anything.

We anarchists must stick together.

tmp · 09-30-2004

altho i left panchos after 2 nites, it was w/regret because the room was fabulous....rafael was a sweetie & refunded all my $$ ...BUT the pool was green w/slime and there was no phone in the room as stated in their web site..i really wanted to use room service & be able to talk to my husband daily....rafael understood & gave me my $$ back no problem....i hope some other great hotel scoops him up because he is a diplomat

vetdrm · 09-30-2004

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Originally Posted by Xel

Oh, that collage would make a nice fixture in the DLR Bar.

I did see him perform live last summer and he rocked my socks off... played all the hits, sprayed Jack Daniels into the crowd, did martial arts with the microphone stand (this was pre-microphone stand accident that cut the tour short) and he can still JUMP (although not quite as high.)

The guy's 50 now and I think I actually have a crush (and I was in elementary school when VH was at its peak.) Can't think of a better rock 'n roll front man.

Diamond Dave vs. the Red Rocker? No brainer IMHO, but that's a topic for a thread all its own...

Anybody out there ever hear of Montrose? Bad Motor Scooter...Rock Candy?

**sctx** · 09-30-2004

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Originally Posted by vetdrm

Anybody out there ever hear of Montrose? Bad Motor Scooter...Rock Candy?

yeah, good stuff, but not quite as good as seein VH blow Black Sabbath of the stage when they opened for them in '78. Why Eddie thinks he needs a vocalist is beyond me anyway.... Jeff Beck don't need no stinkin vocalist

cuffedlinks · 09-30-2004

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Originally Posted by vetdrm

Anybody out there ever hear of Montrose? Bad Motor Scooter...Rock Candy?

...are you kidding me? Ronnie Montrose and an 18-19 year old Sammy Hagar...

My FAVORITE album!!

Cuz you're Rock candy BABY...Ho-ot Sweet and Sticky...One of the BEST drum beat intro's ever!

...get on your bad motor scooter and ride alright, alright, alright...

Rock the, Rock the, rock the Na-tion...

Space Station No. 5...

(BTW - Ronnie Montrose was also a part of The Edgar Winter Group...)

Continuing to reminisce....

....have you heard the news...there's good rockin tonight...

....it seemed the right age for havin' fun....(Make it Last)

Now tell your Momma not to wait...we may a little late...(One thing on my mind)

DAMN!....
Good stuff...

Becky · 10-01-2004

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Originally Posted by denisea

You're not alone Michael... I never could figure out the big deal about the place. Food was OK... atmosphere different... no great loss to me.

Wow, I'm really surprised about the bad experiences at Pancho's restaurant. It's only been in the last year that we finally went in and tried the food (went there because it was on the Playa Deal Card) and it was fabulous. We've made it a point to eat there on our last two trips because it was just so outstanding. Their Napoleon Cheese or Cheese Napoleon (whatever it was called) was just amazing. Though on our last visit (in May) the service was not as good, the food was still outstanding.

Becky

jrbentcuba · 10-01-2004

As the former manager I am not suprised to hear about this. I feel bad for some of the employees, but not for Wayne Trotter nor his daughter. They have been in a lawsuit over the lease for a few years with a guy in Merida. They also had the Mexican version of the IRS after them, so not sure which one caught up with them. When they brought in the owners daughter thats when things went downhill, she didnt have a clue. Stopped the live music and changed the vibe. It was such a nice place but could have been more. Hope Edgar and Raul and the rest are able to find work, they deserve it. I would imagine the Italian lady who owns the restaurant next door is smiling from ear to ear. Fridas will be missed, but Wayne wont.

**ryberg** · 10-01-2004

All right, first of all

OK, now that that's clear (and note that I'm not any more

than the previous posters, in any event), I feel the need to chime in and say that, whatever else you say about David Lee Roth -- and I ain't no particular fan of him or Van Halen -- I liked 'em a lot better with him than with Sammy Hagar. That stuff was all around when I was growing up and you couldn't avoid it even if you'd wanted to and tried hard, but I just never bought Sammy Hagar as the vocalist for Van Halen. That always seemed too much like, well, Van Halen + Sammy Hagar (who I also never liked in his solo efforts) rather than a cohesive thing called Van Halen.

By contrast, and however terribly burnt out and forgotten (not entirely, obviously!) he may be now, you have to admit that David Lee Roth was certainly the right guy in the right place at the right time, there, when MTV first appeared. Who could beat the video for "Jump", either conceptually (it cost like 500 bucks to make or something, right?) or just for fun? In fact, who could beat VH at that time for fun all around? Then they split and DLR did his little EP of "Just a Gigolo" and that Beach Boys tune he covered or whatever, with video chock full or bikini babes, and it wasn't very convincing -- a downright celebration of lack of substance. And as such, what better symbol of the dawn of MTV? Billy Idol is the only one who comes to mind who might compete with him for the crown, though perhaps my brain is now too addled to think of others (and feel free to nominate!).

But by the same token, VH had great success with DLR and then just lost what was making them fun -- Eddie's guitar work never being in question -- and went on with a very ho-hum replacement in a muscle shirt, M. Hagar (a guy named after men's polyester slacks, for cryin' out loud!).

And there you have my unasked for $.02 worth on the topic.

Steve

cuffedlinks · 10-01-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by mellory

Is that Gary Glitter? And Pamella whats her name?

Michael Des Barres and Pamela Des Barres...long since divorced...

Michael has done a fair amount of acting recently - just came off an episode of Hawaii

Pamela's book "I'm With The Band" talks about her days as a groupie with the likes of Cynthia Plaster Caster...good friends with Melanie Griffith and Patti D'Arbanville...(The latter 2 were ex's of Don Johnson)...

Avalon · 10-01-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuffedlinks

Pamela's book "I'm With The Band" talks about her days as a groupie with the likes of Cynthia Plaster Caster...good friends with Melanie Griffith and Patti D'Arbanville...(The latter 2 were ex's of Don Johnson)...

That book and Jackie Collins fueled my desire to read in college!

**ryberg** · 10-02-2004

And now to redeem myself and turn very much back to the topic: I heard tonight that Blue Lobster sealed a deal just today to take over the operation of the space that was Frida's, along with the renting of the rooms that were Pancho's (apparently a specific requirement of the deal) with the owner of the land on which both properties sit, and that while plans for the space/design have not yet been decided, Blue Lobster will basically knock out at least part of their back wall in order to connect to the two spaces and plans to spend the next couple of months working on the space before opening it in December.

Steve

09-30-2004	#50 (permalink)
STOGEY Allah Akhbar Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: salisbury, mass. Posts: 6,988	Well softy and I only ate at two or three places there last year, so there wasn't much to compare with. Anyways what I liked about fridas was not only the food but the atmosphere. Even though pancho was a communist revolutionary who would have had a different view point than I would. I still do like revolutionaries though. I still liked the atmosphere of the place. As far as the food went my palate is not that choosey so I'm not a real critic as far as food goes. We didn't get sick or anything. We anarchists must stick together. Last edited by STOGEY; 09-30-2004 at 07:43 PM..

09-30-2004	#51 (permalink)
tmp toe in water Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 55	so sad altho i left panchos after 2 nites, it was w/regret because the room was fabulous....rafael was a sweetie & refunded all my $$ ...BUT the pool was green w/slime and there was no phone in the room as stated in their web site..i really wanted to use room service & be able to talk to my husband daily....rafael understood & gave me my $$ back no problem....i hope some other great hotel scoops him up because he is a diplomat

10-01-2004	#56 (permalink)
jrbentcuba sandflea Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Turks and Caicos Posts: 2	Fridas! Long time comin. As the former manager I am not suprised to hear about this. I feel bad for some of the employees, but not for Wayne Trotter nor his daughter. They have been in a lawsuit over the lease for a few years with a guy in Merida. They also had the Mexican version of the IRS after them, so not sure which one caught up with them. When they brought in the owners daughter thats when things went downhill, she didnt have a clue. Stopped the live music and changed the vibe. It was such a nice place but could have been more. Hope Edgar and Raul and the rest are able to find work, they deserve it. I would imagine the Italian lady who owns the restaurant next door is smiling from ear to ear. Fridas will be missed, but Wayne wont.

09-30-2004	#46 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: real America Posts: 11,932	It's like the bizarro world version of what happened to Andre Agassi, you know, a worst case scenario where you could imagine how he (Agassi) might have turned out. Steve

09-30-2004	#47 (permalink)
mellory way into it Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 155	Which is worse, the mullet or the long hair comb-over?

09-30-2004	#49 (permalink)
mellory way into it Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 155	Is that Gary Glitter? And Pamella whats her name?

10-01-2004	#57 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: real America Posts: 11,932	All right, first of all OK, now that that's clear (and note that I'm not any more than the previous posters, in any event), I feel the need to chime in and say that, whatever else you say about David Lee Roth -- and I ain't no particular fan of him or Van Halen -- I liked 'em a lot better with him than with Sammy Hagar. That stuff was all around when I was growing up and you couldn't avoid it even if you'd wanted to and tried hard, but I just never bought Sammy Hagar as the vocalist for Van Halen. That always seemed too much like, well, Van Halen + Sammy Hagar (who I also never liked in his solo efforts) rather than a cohesive thing called Van Halen. By contrast, and however terribly burnt out and forgotten (not entirely, obviously!) he may be now, you have to admit that David Lee Roth was certainly the right guy in the right place at the right time, there, when MTV first appeared. Who could beat the video for "Jump", either conceptually (it cost like 500 bucks to make or something, right?) or just for fun? In fact, who could beat VH at that time for fun all around? Then they split and DLR did his little EP of "Just a Gigolo" and that Beach Boys tune he covered or whatever, with video chock full or bikini babes, and it wasn't very convincing -- a downright celebration of lack of substance. And as such, what better symbol of the dawn of MTV? Billy Idol is the only one who comes to mind who might compete with him for the crown, though perhaps my brain is now too addled to think of others (and feel free to nominate!). But by the same token, VH had great success with DLR and then just lost what was making them fun -- Eddie's guitar work never being in question -- and went on with a very ho-hum replacement in a muscle shirt, M. Hagar (a guy named after men's polyester slacks, for cryin' out loud!). And there you have my unasked for $.02 worth on the topic. Steve

10-02-2004	#60 (permalink)
ryberg playa maya guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: real America Posts: 11,932	And now to redeem myself and turn very much back to the topic: I heard tonight that Blue Lobster sealed a deal just today to take over the operation of the space that was Frida's, along with the renting of the rooms that were Pancho's (apparently a specific requirement of the deal) with the owner of the land on which both properties sit, and that while plans for the space/design have not yet been decided, Blue Lobster will basically knock out at least part of their back wall in order to connect to the two spaces and plans to spend the next couple of months working on the space before opening it in December. Steve

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